Mailman 3 January 2007 - Mailman-coders

[ mailman-Bugs-1628753 ] Outbound messages have domain fubar'd
by SourceForge.net 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Bugs item #1628753, was opened at 2007-01-05 09:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by wshs You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael Reynolds (wshs) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Outbound messages have domain fubar'd Initial Comment: This is using a port install of mailman in FreeBSD, with version 2.1.9_1. When sending messages to users, either triggered by the web interface, or a message from a user to a mailman controlled email address, while using qmail with the included qmail-to-mailman script, the following errors litter my logs: 2007-01-05 07:53:25.924843500 info msg 5348160: bytes 1233 from <sirv-bounces(a)lists.delinked.us> qp 98922 uid 89 2007-01-05 07:53:25.961231500 starting delivery 17: msg 5348160 to remote munged(a)gmail.comyes Note the 'gmail.comyes'. A 'yes' is appended to every outbound message's target domain, thus making delivery impossible. I spent a few days thinking it was something I messed up, so I went through my entire system setup checking everything that could influence mail. I then discovered the problem is specific to mailman. Not sure what info I can provide to help, but I'd be willing to supply upon request. I am using FreeBSD 5.5, Python 2.5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Michael Reynolds (wshs) Date: 2007-01-12 08:33 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=96949 Originator: YES I've tracked the problem down to internal stupidity, and it is not related at all to Mailman. However, it wasn't noticed until Mailman made me aware of it (patch that adversely affected smtp relaying). I do apologize for blaming mailman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-01-05 10:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO There are many people using Mailman 2.1.9 and probably several using the FreeBSD port. This is the first report of this issue. It may have something to do with Python 2.5 or perhaps the combination of the FreeBSD port and Python 2.5. The following is an interactive Python snippet (Python responses other than prompts omitted) that sends mail in exactly the same way as Mailman does. If you have changed the assignments of SMTPHOST and/or SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py, change them here too. Try this and see if the problem exists with it. If so, the problem is with Python, not Mailman. >>> import smtplib >>> msg = """Subject: Test Message ... Message-Id: <some-id(a)nowhere.example.com> ... From: poster(a)example.com ... To: you ... ... The body ... """ >>> rcpts = ['user1(a)example.com', 'userb(a)example.com'] >>> env = 'list-bounces(a)example.com' >>> SMTPHOST = 'localhost' >>> SMTPPORT = 0 >>> x = smtplib.SMTP() >>> x.set_debuglevel(1) >>> x.connect(SMTPHOST, SMTPPORT) >>> x.sendmail(env, rcpts, msg) >>> x.quit() ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-630339 ] create list with multiple owners
by SourceForge.net 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

Patches item #630339, was opened at 2002-10-29 10:03 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by kink You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=630339&group_i… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: list administration Group: Mailman 2.2 / 3.0 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 3 Private: No Submitted By: IKEDA Soji (hatukanezumi) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: create list with multiple owners Initial Comment: Create list with multiple list owners, by 'create' CGI script and 'newlist' command line script. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Thijs Kinkhorst (kink) Date: 2007-01-11 13:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=285765 Originator: NO I support that this patch be added. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IKEDA Soji (hatukanezumi) Date: 2005-05-10 13:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=529503 Update for 2.1.6RC3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IKEDA Soji (hatukanezumi) Date: 2004-01-06 08:28 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=529503 Update for 2.1.4. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=630339&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1629971 ] Repeat Emails from Mailman 2.1.9
by SourceForge.net 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Bugs item #1629971, was opened at 2007-01-07 08:45 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1629971&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: mfr301 (mfr301) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Repeat Emails from Mailman 2.1.9 Initial Comment: Hello, I currently use your software as a reseller client with ResellerZoom.com. 3 days ago my clients and myself started receiving numerous repeat emails. The emails were being sent by the mailing list section of Mailman 2.1.9. The problem is that every time (Since it started and has been going on for 3 straight days), I receive emails, they are the SAME emails over and over. Their not visible on the mailing list, their not in a que, and their not in pending messages. I have a client who kept deleting mailing lists (like test@.....) and it kept re-appearing. I have been on line with the ResellerZoom tech support CONSTANTLY from my blackberry for 3 days since the problem started and they have not been able to rectify the problem. Is there anything you can suggest? Mike mfr301(a)aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-01-07 10:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Until you determine that there actually is a bug in Mailman, it would be better to discuss issues like this on the mailman-users(a)python.org list. See <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>. You say the mails you receive were sent by Mailman, but they are 'not visible on the mailing list'. What do you mean by 'not visible on the mailing list' and how do you know they are sent by Mailman? Re: deleted lists reappearing, How are the lists being deleted? It might be more productive for ResellerZoom to contact mailman-users(a)python.org directly. Also, if the Mailman is cPanel's, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.011.htp>. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1629971&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1629971 ] Repeat Emails from Mailman 2.1.9
by SourceForge.net 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Bugs item #1629971, was opened at 2007-01-07 16:45 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1629971&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: mfr301 (mfr301) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Repeat Emails from Mailman 2.1.9 Initial Comment: Hello, I currently use your software as a reseller client with ResellerZoom.com. 3 days ago my clients and myself started receiving numerous repeat emails. The emails were being sent by the mailing list section of Mailman 2.1.9. The problem is that every time (Since it started and has been going on for 3 straight days), I receive emails, they are the SAME emails over and over. Their not visible on the mailing list, their not in a que, and their not in pending messages. I have a client who kept deleting mailing lists (like test@.....) and it kept re-appearing. I have been on line with the ResellerZoom tech support CONSTANTLY from my blackberry for 3 days since the problem started and they have not been able to rectify the problem. Is there anything you can suggest? Mike mfr301(a)aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1629971&group_…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-673265 ] Post confirmation + moderation
by SourceForge.net 06 Jan '07

06 Jan '07

Feature Requests item #673265, was opened at 2003-01-23 13:39 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=673265&group_i… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Samuel Tardieu (samtardieu) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Post confirmation + moderation Initial Comment: The following scheme (implemented by me for Sympa as a scenario some time ago) leads to a spam-free mailing-list with almost no work from the moderator. When a mail arrive and should be held for any reason (sender not in subscriber list, list not in to: or cc:, too many recipients), ask the alleged sender to confirm its post then hold it for moderation when the sender confirms its intention to post. This way, spam (whose confirmation request will almost never be answered) is not presented to the moderators, while mail sent by humans will. It would be great to have this feature in mailman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2007-01-06 09:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Originator: NO Mailman 2.2 will definitely have this feature in some form or another. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Thomas Petazzoni (tpetazzoni) Date: 2007-01-06 02:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1145572 Originator: NO I also really would like to see this feature implemented in Mailman. I'm the mailing list moderator of several lists managed by Mailman, and I'm really bored by all the spam I have to delete from the administrative interface. Of course, I could configure the lists to drop e-mails from non-members, but as some of my lists target a public that doesn't really understand the way mailing lists work, I prefer to keep the solution of moderating valid e-mails by hand. Having a mechanism where a e-mail would be send to the sender asking for confirmation would be nice. Sympa has this feature for a long time, but I'd really prefer sticking with Mailman, I like it better. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: James Andrewartha (watha) Date: 2006-11-12 21:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=460267 http://viewmtn.angrygoats.net/revision/diff/dfedaca2816739f4f052d21247f6877… has an implementation for this, although there's a few other features mixed into the diff as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Lucas Nussbaum (lnu) Date: 2006-11-11 05:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=527142 Also, this could be implemented in a greylist-like way: the sender would have to confirm his first post, and then, its mails would get auto-accepted for a few hours/days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Lucas Nussbaum (lnu) Date: 2006-11-11 05:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=527142 Hi, This feature would really be great to have in mailman. Additionnally, a web-based confirmation interface could be added, with an image-based confirmation, to prevent robots from auto-confirming their posts. Is it planned ? I'm a bit concerned by the fact that this feature request was posted more than 3 years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=673265&group_i…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-673265 ] Post confirmation + moderation
by SourceForge.net 06 Jan '07

06 Jan '07

Feature Requests item #673265, was opened at 2003-01-23 19:39 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by tpetazzoni You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=673265&group_i… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Samuel Tardieu (samtardieu) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Post confirmation + moderation Initial Comment: The following scheme (implemented by me for Sympa as a scenario some time ago) leads to a spam-free mailing-list with almost no work from the moderator. When a mail arrive and should be held for any reason (sender not in subscriber list, list not in to: or cc:, too many recipients), ask the alleged sender to confirm its post then hold it for moderation when the sender confirms its intention to post. This way, spam (whose confirmation request will almost never be answered) is not presented to the moderators, while mail sent by humans will. It would be great to have this feature in mailman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Thomas Petazzoni (tpetazzoni) Date: 2007-01-06 08:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1145572 Originator: NO I also really would like to see this feature implemented in Mailman. I'm the mailing list moderator of several lists managed by Mailman, and I'm really bored by all the spam I have to delete from the administrative interface. Of course, I could configure the lists to drop e-mails from non-members, but as some of my lists target a public that doesn't really understand the way mailing lists work, I prefer to keep the solution of moderating valid e-mails by hand. Having a mechanism where a e-mail would be send to the sender asking for confirmation would be nice. Sympa has this feature for a long time, but I'd really prefer sticking with Mailman, I like it better. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: James Andrewartha (watha) Date: 2006-11-13 03:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=460267 http://viewmtn.angrygoats.net/revision/diff/dfedaca2816739f4f052d21247f6877… has an implementation for this, although there's a few other features mixed into the diff as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Lucas Nussbaum (lnu) Date: 2006-11-11 11:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=527142 Also, this could be implemented in a greylist-like way: the sender would have to confirm his first post, and then, its mails would get auto-accepted for a few hours/days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Lucas Nussbaum (lnu) Date: 2006-11-11 11:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=527142 Hi, This feature would really be great to have in mailman. Additionnally, a web-based confirmation interface could be added, with an image-based confirmation, to prevent robots from auto-confirming their posts. Is it planned ? I'm a bit concerned by the fact that this feature request was posted more than 3 years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=673265&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1628753 ] Outbound messages have domain fubar'd
by SourceForge.net 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

Bugs item #1628753, was opened at 2007-01-05 06:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael Reynolds (wshs) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Outbound messages have domain fubar'd Initial Comment: This is using a port install of mailman in FreeBSD, with version 2.1.9_1. When sending messages to users, either triggered by the web interface, or a message from a user to a mailman controlled email address, while using qmail with the included qmail-to-mailman script, the following errors litter my logs: 2007-01-05 07:53:25.924843500 info msg 5348160: bytes 1233 from <sirv-bounces(a)lists.delinked.us> qp 98922 uid 89 2007-01-05 07:53:25.961231500 starting delivery 17: msg 5348160 to remote munged(a)gmail.comyes Note the 'gmail.comyes'. A 'yes' is appended to every outbound message's target domain, thus making delivery impossible. I spent a few days thinking it was something I messed up, so I went through my entire system setup checking everything that could influence mail. I then discovered the problem is specific to mailman. Not sure what info I can provide to help, but I'd be willing to supply upon request. I am using FreeBSD 5.5, Python 2.5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-01-05 07:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO There are many people using Mailman 2.1.9 and probably several using the FreeBSD port. This is the first report of this issue. It may have something to do with Python 2.5 or perhaps the combination of the FreeBSD port and Python 2.5. The following is an interactive Python snippet (Python responses other than prompts omitted) that sends mail in exactly the same way as Mailman does. If you have changed the assignments of SMTPHOST and/or SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py, change them here too. Try this and see if the problem exists with it. If so, the problem is with Python, not Mailman. >>> import smtplib >>> msg = """Subject: Test Message ... Message-Id: <some-id(a)nowhere.example.com> ... From: poster(a)example.com ... To: you ... ... The body ... """ >>> rcpts = ['user1(a)example.com', 'userb(a)example.com'] >>> env = 'list-bounces(a)example.com' >>> SMTPHOST = 'localhost' >>> SMTPPORT = 0 >>> x = smtplib.SMTP() >>> x.set_debuglevel(1) >>> x.connect(SMTPHOST, SMTPPORT) >>> x.sendmail(env, rcpts, msg) >>> x.quit() ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1628753 ] Outbound messages have domain fubar'd
by SourceForge.net 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

Bugs item #1628753, was opened at 2007-01-05 09:18 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael Reynolds (wshs) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Outbound messages have domain fubar'd Initial Comment: This is using a port install of mailman in FreeBSD, with version 2.1.9_1. When sending messages to users, either triggered by the web interface, or a message from a user to a mailman controlled email address, while using qmail with the included qmail-to-mailman script, the following errors litter my logs: 2007-01-05 07:53:25.924843500 info msg 5348160: bytes 1233 from <sirv-bounces(a)lists.delinked.us> qp 98922 uid 89 2007-01-05 07:53:25.961231500 starting delivery 17: msg 5348160 to remote munged(a)gmail.comyes Note the 'gmail.comyes'. A 'yes' is appended to every outbound message's target domain, thus making delivery impossible. I spent a few days thinking it was something I messed up, so I went through my entire system setup checking everything that could influence mail. I then discovered the problem is specific to mailman. Not sure what info I can provide to help, but I'd be willing to supply upon request. I am using FreeBSD 5.5, Python 2.5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1628753&group_…

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OK
by Juhani Ollikainen 31 Dec '06

31 Dec '06

Juhani Ollikainen e-mail. juhani.ollikaineneen(a)dnainternet.net ad.jo(a)dnainternet.net

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