Mailman-coders February 2008

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[ mailman-Bugs-1904737 ] ban_list entry breaks bulk member import
by SourceForge.net 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

Bugs item #1904737, was opened at 2008-02-29 07:14 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1904737&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: command line scripts Group: 2.1 (stable) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Lars Köller (wlanguy2) >Assigned to: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Summary: ban_list entry breaks bulk member import Initial Comment: Mailman 2.1.9 (python 2.4.4) on Solaris 8 SPARC: When an email address, e.g. dummy(a)example.com is inserted into the ban_list and the same member is tried to become a regular member, an error is triggered. The is really critical, cause automatically generated bulk imports fail. echo "dummy(a)example.com" | /usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members -a n -w n -r - verteiler-zv Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 255, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 235, in main addall(mlist, nmembers, 0, send_welcome_msg, s) File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 135, in addall mlist.ApprovedAddMember(userdesc, ack, 0) File "/usr/localhost/mailman/current/fhbi/Mailman/MailList.py", line 958, in ApprovedAddMember raise Errors.MembershipIsBanned, pattern Mailman.Errors.MembershipIsBanned: dummy(a)example.com Please fix as fast as possible. many thanks and best regards Lars ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2008-02-29 09:35 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Fixed by the attached patch which also fixes sync_members and clone_member. File Added: patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1904737&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1904737 ] ban_list entry breaks bulk member import
by SourceForge.net 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

Bugs item #1904737, was opened at 2008-02-29 16:14 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1904737&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: command line scripts Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Lars Köller (wlanguy2) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: ban_list entry breaks bulk member import Initial Comment: Mailman 2.1.9 (python 2.4.4) on Solaris 8 SPARC: When an email address, e.g. dummy(a)example.com is inserted into the ban_list and the same member is tried to become a regular member, an error is triggered. The is really critical, cause automatically generated bulk imports fail. echo "dummy(a)example.com" | /usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members -a n -w n -r - verteiler-zv Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 255, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 235, in main addall(mlist, nmembers, 0, send_welcome_msg, s) File "/usr/local/mailman/current/fhbi/bin/add_members", line 135, in addall mlist.ApprovedAddMember(userdesc, ack, 0) File "/usr/localhost/mailman/current/fhbi/Mailman/MailList.py", line 958, in ApprovedAddMember raise Errors.MembershipIsBanned, pattern Mailman.Errors.MembershipIsBanned: dummy(a)example.com Please fix as fast as possible. many thanks and best regards Lars ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1904737&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1902402 ] Updated README
by SourceForge.net 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Patches item #1902402, was opened at 2008-02-26 13:28 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: documentation Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Updated README Initial Comment: The README hasn't been touched in a while; it encourages the user to download Python 2.3.3, points to a now-404 /mailman-21/ URL, and refers to the inactive mailman3-dev list and to public CVS. The attached patch modernizes the README. I think I have commit privs so I could commit it, but wanted to get the changes double-checked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2008-02-26 13:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Originator: NO Andrew, how about creating a bzr branch with these changes and pushing them to Launchpad? :) I'd love to review a branch more than a patch! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2008-02-26 13:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Originator: YES Attaching another patch, for UPGRADING. File Added: UPGRADING.diff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1902402 ] Updated README
by SourceForge.net 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Patches item #1902402, was opened at 2008-02-26 13:28 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by akuchling You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: documentation Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Updated README Initial Comment: The README hasn't been touched in a while; it encourages the user to download Python 2.3.3, points to a now-404 /mailman-21/ URL, and refers to the inactive mailman3-dev list and to public CVS. The attached patch modernizes the README. I think I have commit privs so I could commit it, but wanted to get the changes double-checked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2008-02-26 13:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Originator: YES Attaching another patch, for UPGRADING. File Added: UPGRADING.diff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1902402 ] Updated README
by SourceForge.net 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Patches item #1902402, was opened at 2008-02-26 13:28 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: documentation Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Updated README Initial Comment: The README hasn't been touched in a while; it encourages the user to download Python 2.3.3, points to a now-404 /mailman-21/ URL, and refers to the inactive mailman3-dev list and to public CVS. The attached patch modernizes the README. I think I have commit privs so I could commit it, but wanted to get the changes double-checked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1902402&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1845459 ] cron/checkdbs produces traceback - buggy french translation
by SourceForge.net 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Bugs item #1845459, was opened at 2007-12-06 04:11 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1845459&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: command line scripts Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Gerry Murphy (gjmurphy) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: cron/checkdbs produces traceback - buggy french translation Initial Comment: The following is produced when checkdb expires held messages AND the list preferred language is 'fr'. Patch which fixes this is attached. --start-- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 203, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 107, in main text = _( File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 90, in _ return tns % dict ValueError: unsupported format character 'a' (0x61) at index 34 --end-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2008-02-20 15:01 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I posted your patch to the Mailman-i18n list in December. See <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/2007-December/001532.html>. I am still hoping to get an updated translation in time for the 2.1.10 final release, but in case I don't, I'm applying the patch to the current message catalog. The next beta/rc release of 2.1.10 will have it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Gerry Murphy (gjmurphy) Date: 2008-02-20 02:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1890069 Originator: YES This bug was originally found in Mailman 2.1.9. This bug is still present in Mailman 2.1.10b3. This patch works with version 2.1.10b3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1845459&group_…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix
by SourceForge.net 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Feature Requests item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 04:44 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 3 Private: No Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix Initial Comment: I've had a request from a list member who would like us to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server (mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile users) would then respond asking us to remove them. Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one of three possible values; use the default list setting, override on or override off. This would allow users to please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems caused by limitations in their mailclient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2008-02-20 06:59 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO This discussion should continue on Mailman-Developers(a)python.org <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers>. Please keep in mind that this is unlikely to be accepted for the 2.1 maintenance branch, primararily because of the changes to user options and the corresponding i18n implications. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey) Date: 2008-02-19 21:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=29401 Originator: NO It looks like the default subject prefix mangling happens in the main pipeline after the message is accepted, in CookHeaders. Per-user processing (like VERP) appears to be done in the queue runners. I guess OutputRunner would need to be the one to do this, and would need to break up the recipient list into groups based on what per-recipient munging needs to be done. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey) Date: 2008-02-19 16:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=29401 Originator: NO Nothing seems to have happened with this in the last 3 years. I just saw this conflict come up again on the Subversion mailing list, and it seems to come up regularly on any list that has the prefixes disabled (my personal preference). Before I start looking at the code, are there any design constraints that argue against implementing this, or implementing it in a particular way? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Date: 2005-01-19 00:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20872 Some lists use prefixes, some don't. Some users that subscribe to many lists want consistency, but we don't want to have to determine and enforce a site-wide policy and deal with all the ensuing arguments. This feature shifts the decision from the list/site managers to the individuals users. Basic headache prevention. The main argument for prefixes seems to be 'I can quickly identify what the mail is about in my inbox', where users haven't got or don't use their client's header filtering features. The main argument against prefixes seems to be 'I just get a screenful of list prefixes when I try to view my list folders', where users are trying to use mail clients in a low screen resolution (e.g. old VGA screen, palm/PDA device, mobile phone, small desktop window whatever). Sorry for misfiling it. Haven't used SF for a while - forgot that feature requests and bugs aren't mixed like in bugzilla. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-18 18:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 This should be submitted as Feature Request. BTW, many mailing list users are happy with subject prefixes. Why not GNOME users? ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1845459 ] cron/checkdbs produces traceback - buggy french translation
by SourceForge.net 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Bugs item #1845459, was opened at 2007-12-06 13:11 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by gjmurphy You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1845459&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. >Category: command line scripts Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Gerry Murphy (gjmurphy) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Summary: cron/checkdbs produces traceback - buggy french translation Initial Comment: The following is produced when checkdb expires held messages AND the list preferred language is 'fr'. Patch which fixes this is attached. --start-- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 203, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 107, in main text = _( File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 90, in _ return tns % dict ValueError: unsupported format character 'a' (0x61) at index 34 --end-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Gerry Murphy (gjmurphy) Date: 2008-02-20 11:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1890069 Originator: YES This bug was originally found in Mailman 2.1.9. This bug is still present in Mailman 2.1.10b3. This patch works with version 2.1.10b3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1845459&group_…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-1897575 ] Patch to help report spam in moderator queue
by SourceForge.net 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Feature Requests item #1897575, was opened at 2008-02-20 07:16 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1897575&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Patch to help report spam in moderator queue Initial Comment: You're moderating one of your lists, looking at the 'admindbsummary' page. You're already ticked 'accept' to all the non-spam entries and clicked submit. You're now left with a queue consisting only of spam. Some days, you feel calm and rational and just delete the rest using the handy 'discard all deferred' tickboxes and move on. Other times, you have spam-rage and feel frustrated that it's not trivial to forward all this spam on to a reporting service, such as Spamcop or Knujon (or whatever else comes along) and help those who do have more time and resources to hunt down and shut down these bastards. The problem is that you'd have to go through the list, ticking 'forward to' and cutting'n'pasting your spam submission address(es) in for the whole list manually before you can submit it. One solution would be to add another tickbox like 'report all deferred' and do some server-side patching to act on the tickbox. A quicker (dirtier?) solution is just to add a few lines of Javascript to the 'admindbsummary' page to automate the task client-side. I added the following to the template on my home server: <script type="text/javascript"></script> <form method="GET" action="javascript: sendspamto(); return false;"> <p><b>Forward spam</b> to : <input id="fwdspamto" value="knujon(a)coldrain.net"/> <input type="submit" value="Set" onclick="sendspamto()"/></p> </form> If someone wants to take the above, polish it or whatever and use it in upstream mailman that'd make my (and probably a few thousands other moderators) lives a little easier :) Otherwise, please feel free to put it in the FAQ for others to use as they wish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1897575&group_…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix
by SourceForge.net 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Feature Requests item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 04:44 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by scratchmonkey You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 3 Private: No Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix Initial Comment: I've had a request from a list member who would like us to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server (mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile users) would then respond asking us to remove them. Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one of three possible values; use the default list setting, override on or override off. This would allow users to please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems caused by limitations in their mailclient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey) Date: 2008-02-19 21:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=29401 Originator: NO It looks like the default subject prefix mangling happens in the main pipeline after the message is accepted, in CookHeaders. Per-user processing (like VERP) appears to be done in the queue runners. I guess OutputRunner would need to be the one to do this, and would need to break up the recipient list into groups based on what per-recipient munging needs to be done. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey) Date: 2008-02-19 16:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=29401 Originator: NO Nothing seems to have happened with this in the last 3 years. I just saw this conflict come up again on the Subversion mailing list, and it seems to come up regularly on any list that has the prefixes disabled (my personal preference). Before I start looking at the code, are there any design constraints that argue against implementing this, or implementing it in a particular way? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Date: 2005-01-19 00:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20872 Some lists use prefixes, some don't. Some users that subscribe to many lists want consistency, but we don't want to have to determine and enforce a site-wide policy and deal with all the ensuing arguments. This feature shifts the decision from the list/site managers to the individuals users. Basic headache prevention. The main argument for prefixes seems to be 'I can quickly identify what the mail is about in my inbox', where users haven't got or don't use their client's header filtering features. The main argument against prefixes seems to be 'I just get a screenful of list prefixes when I try to view my list folders', where users are trying to use mail clients in a low screen resolution (e.g. old VGA screen, palm/PDA device, mobile phone, small desktop window whatever). Sorry for misfiling it. Haven't used SF for a while - forgot that feature requests and bugs aren't mixed like in bugzilla. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-18 18:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 This should be submitted as Feature Request. BTW, many mailing list users are happy with subject prefixes. Why not GNOME users? ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_…

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