Feature Requests item #1822565, was opened at 2007-10-30 00:33 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cyndi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1822565&group_id=103 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Cyndi (cyndi) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Plain text option for nondigest Initial Comment: I searched this to the best of my ability and there seems to be no current method to do it. I found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg36881.html and searched the feature requests, but it seems no one has submitted this yet, as far as I can tell. You have a plain-text option for subscribers to select if they receive the digest. I've tested it and it works perfectly. Messages that came through as HTML gobblygook in the nondigest will display as lovely plain text in the digest. What I would love is a plain-text option for the nondigest. Just exactly what you do for the digests, only post by post. Yahoogroups does it, as do many other mailing list sites/programs. It seems that currently I have only three choices: 1) Convert all posts to plain text. I can't get this to work right though (I am using a hosting service via my ISP, so they may not have all the prereqs, or I need to tweak it more myself). But this means people who want HTML can't get it. 2) Get MM to hold all HTML posts for moderation, then I send rejection notices insisting that people post in plain text only. This "works" but disenfranchises people with poor email skills or who use mailers/ISP's like AOL. I run a support group filled with people who have brain processing deficits, as well as those who simply don't understand computers. I've tried for years to get folks to post in plain text and most just can't. I finally gave up and hand-edited the HTML posts, but this isn't possible on MM (and I hate doing it). 3) Live with it. Most people have HTML-capable mailers (I'm an oldtimer holdout, but can switch). The problem is that some of my subscribers are blind or otherwise can't deal with HTML-formatted email (not all have converting software). A choice #4 (user option for nondigest plain text) would be wonderful. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Cyndi (cyndi) Date: 2007-10-30 19:24
Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1925111 Originator: YES Well, you yourself said that anyone wanting this ability to be per-user should submit a feature request here (see http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg36881.html ). So I did. If it can be per user for digests, I don't see why not for nondigests, but you know the limitations of the software. I already tested the scrub_nondigest option and it was a total disaster. It didn't do any conversion. All it did was take all the text (along with any attachments) in the message and remove it, then put a link to where to find it. Even that didn't work well. I also tested the Content Filtering to do HTML conversion to plain text and it was even more of a disaster. I found some instructions that indicate it is very complex to setup, but my browser crashed so I'll have to look them up again. I think it might be possible to do HTML conversion on all the posts but only if my ISP agrees to do some stuff on their end. And it's not straightforward. For right now, I would be happy with a bug-free way to do conversions for the entire list. But I still think a feature where the user can choose HTML or plain text individual posts is a good thing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-10-30 18:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Perhaps you didn't search well enough, or perhaps we just hide or don't describe the option in these terms, but the Non-digest options->scrub_nondigest option in the list admin interface will do what you want. It will apply the same process that is applied to the plain digest to individual messages. The only problem is this is a list option, not an individual subscriber option. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1822565&group_id=103