Bugs item #1446859, was opened at 2006-03-09 16:45 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1446859&group_id=103 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Bill Saunders (ws28) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Posters set to Mod, incorrectly Rejected should be Held Initial Comment: Mailman 2.1.6(slightly hacked) SunOS xxx 5.8 Sendmail I've setup a group nis_mailman_test. 1- Privacy options/Sender filters/Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list is set to Hold. 2- <same>/By default, should new list member postings be moderated is set to No 3- I've added my members via a script that calls add_members with the options "-w n -a n". 4- So after adding the members, all members can post. 5- Change this by going into Membership Management/Additional Member tasks/Set everyones moderation... set to On.

To review, before step 5, the mod column for all members "mod" was unchecked. (At that point anyone could post without admin/moderator assistance.) After step 5 the mod column for all members is checked.

6- Checking the Privacy options/Sender filters/Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list we find that it is set to Hold 7- Also checking I thought there was a "should I tell the user that their email is being held?" and if I remember correctly this is set to Yes.

so at this point if a member sends a post they SHOULD get an email saying "I've held your email until the moderator approves it".

unfortunately at this point the member gets an email stating: "The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address."

ok so lets try something different 1- delete all users 2- change the Membership Management/Additional Member tasks/Set everyones moderation from No to On 3- Add all of the users 4- attempt a post from a user

this produces the correct behavior, an email is sent to the member stating "hey Im holding this until approved" AND the moderator gets an email "do you want to approve this".

So the bug is that changing the users moderation flag from off to on is NOT the same as subscribing a user with the "Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list" set on. Bill bsaunder2002 somwhereat <what a cowboy yells, when he sees a pretty cowgirl(unless it's like Brokeback mountain but you get the gist)>.com read that spammers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-09 17:20

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unfortunately at this point the member gets an email stating: "The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address." </quote>

This doesn't come from Mailman. It comes from the MTA. Unless the MTA is actually checking list membership before accepting posts, the poster sent the post to the wrong address. <quote> 1- delete all users 2- change the Membership Management/Additional Member tasks/Set everyones moderation from No to On </quote> Which does absolutely nothing at this point besause there are no members to set to 'moderated'. <quote> 3- Add all of the users 4- attempt a post from a user

this produces the correct behavior, an email is sent to the member stating "hey Im holding this until approved" AND the moderator gets an email "do you want to approve this". </quote>

And how did steps 1 - 4 produce a moderated member? <quote> So the bug is that changing the users moderation flag from off to on is NOT the same as subscribing a user with the "Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list" set on. </quote> I don't see how the above statement follows from your tests, notwithstanding the fact that it is an apples/oranges type of statement. I.e., the moderation flag and the action are not an either/or situation. They are two independent settings that work in concert. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1446859&group_id=103