Feature Requests item #1486877, was opened at 2006-05-11 21:01 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by kberry You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1486877&group_id=103 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: karl berry (kberry) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: administrator vs. moderator settings Initial Comment: Werner Lemberg recently sent a message to mailman-users about separately defining notifications for administrators vs. moderators. While wholeheartedly supporting Werner's general proposal (I currently filter hundreds of useless notifications every day), I'd like to suggest a slightly different variation -- perhaps it's easier to implement too: Have an interface which allows specifying, for any given email address, 1) whether it is a moderator or an administrator 2) whether it should get the daily mails 3) whether it should get the immediate notifications For an interface, I can imagine a screen similar to the current membership management screen (though with many fewer columns). I think this is preferable because on some lists I list myself as a moderator, on others as an administrator, for various reasons. But I never want to get the immediate notifications, regardless of whether I am an admin or a moderator. It occurs to me that the split into "admin" and "moderator" is perhaps misleading in the first place, since the main difference (AFAIK) is whether the given address is listed on the publicly viewable HTML pages. Maybe they should just all be "administrative email address", and whether it is listed or not on the public page is a fourth specification. Other related options I can think of could perhaps be specified the same way, on a per-administrative-email basis: whether it gets (un)subscribes, and whether it gets disabled/deleted bounce notifications. (There is no use in sending anything but the immediate notifications to our robot helper.) Whether it's possible to specify defaults for all these things is not important to me. Having hardwired defaults would be fine. Hope this makes some kind of sense and can be considered for a future release ... Thanks, karl ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: karl berry (kberry) Date: 2006-05-20 21:07

Message: Logged In: YES user_id=33248 I'm not sure admins/moderators should be shoehorned into the regular subscriber list, tempting though it is. They have additional settings (the various notifications) which are not relevant to regular subscribers, and conversely most subscriber settings are not relevant to owners. Finally, when owners are also subscribers, they'd need to be able to control everything separately. Overall, I see a lot more potential for confusion than simplification. But since no developers have responded, I guess it's all pretty much a moot point anyway. Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Jim Popovitch (jimpop) Date: 2006-05-11 22:18 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=3142 I agree that changes to the Owner/Moderator interfaces need some thought. My thought is this: Just eliminate the concept of separate interface settings for defining list Owners and Moderators and replace it by adding Mod and Owner fields to normal users just like NoMail. This way Owners could easily rotate Moderators, and both could easily change their email delivery options from NoMail to Digest to Normal. Tuff luck if all the Owners set NoMail at the same time, however some might want that capability. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1486877&group_id=103