Bugs item #975145, was opened at 2004-06-18 06:20 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by ppsys You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=975145&group_id=103 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Heiko (hgerstung) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Description of -owner field is wrong Initial Comment: In the web interface, list administration section "General options" there is a field called "umbrella_member_suffix", which is "-owner" by default. In the detailed help for this field it reads: When "umbrella_list" is set to indicate that this list has other mailing lists as members, then administrative notices like confirmations and password reminders need to not be sent to the member list addresses, but rather to the owner of those member lists. In that case, the value of this setting is appended to the member's account name for such notices. `-owner' is the typical choice. This setting has no effect when "umbrella_list" is "No". The last sentence indicates that this field is not used anywhere when the field umbrella_list is set to No. This is wrong, because the owner address is used in automatic replies sent to non-subscripted users trying to send a mail to the list, which is automatically rejected. So, I see two possibilities: Change the description of the field, saying that this suffix also is used for building the list owner address (e.g. list "xxx" means a xxx-owner@domain mail address) or (my favourite way) introduce a new field for setting up a list owner address AND be able to edit this "your message has been rejected" mail message (e.g. using a template for this), because even when I edit the LC_MESSAGES file, I have no chance to edit the english texts without diving into the sources, which makes upgrades a crap. Great software, keep on! Kind regards, Heiko ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Richard Barrett (ppsys) Date: 2004-06-24 07:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=75166 You observation is incorrect because the description is about the use of the field NOT the alias and it is NOT said that the alias specified is used for no other purpose. The -owner alias is defined on all lists and has other uses. The use of the -owner alias for other purposes is not directly related to its use as a target for certain types of message when the list is marked as being an umbrella list. If you do not want the -owner alias used this way when the list is an umbrella list you can define an alternative alias, -stuff for example, setting the field on the GUI accordingly. You can then specify what the incoming MTA is to do with messages addressed to the -stuff alias in whatever way you want (> /dev/null for instance) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=975145&group_id=103