Mailman 3 January 1999 - Mailman-Developers

fwd: Cron <mailman@myhost> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/senddigests (fwd)
by Jerry Adlersfluegel Jan. 7, 1999

Jan. 7, 1999

I have upgraded mailman to the new release, 1.0b7, on my redhat 5 system. $ uname -a Linux jerrya 2.0.32 #4 Wed Jan 7 23:14:32 CST 1998 i486 unknown I still receive the following message every day when the digests go out. They are going out successfully, but this message still gets delivered. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:00:04 -0600 From: Cron Daemon <root@jerrya> To: mailman(a)jerrya.fastrans.net Subject: Cron <mailman@jerrya> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/senddigests Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 37, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 34, in main list.SendDigestIfAny() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 194, in SendDigestIfAny self.SendDigestOnSize(0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 206, in SendDigestOnSize self.SendDigest() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 290, in SendDigest self.DeliverToList(d.Present(mime=0), File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 172, in DeliverToList status = cmdproc.close() IOError: (10, 'No child processes') Any ideas? Thanks. -- Jerry Adlersfluegel

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[ANNOUNCE] Mailman 1.0b7
by Barry A. Warsaw Jan. 6, 1999

Jan. 6, 1999

Folks, I've built the tarball for the Mailman 1.0b7 release, however since John appears to be not reading his email during the holiday season, the Web pages at www.list.org have not yet been updated. For now, you can grab the tarball from ftp://ftp.python.org/pub/tmp/mailman-1.0b7.tgz and we'll get the Web site updated ASAP. Below is an excerpt from the DONE file which gives some highlights for this release. My hope is that y'all will bang on this version in the next week or two and, if there are no showstoppers, we can get the full 1.0 release out by mid-January. Given the holiday season, a couple of weeks late isn't so bad! Let me also say that we've got a huge backlog of very good suggestions, contributions, ideas, etc. and on behalf of the other 3 core developers I thank you and encourage you to continue giving feedback. I've spent most of the last 10 days on vacation just trudging through 400-odd messages that I'd accumulated, and I think 1.0b7 fixes most of the really nasty bugs that have been reported up until now. What I haven't done is spend much time adding new features and I don't expect to until after 1.0 final is released. I firmly believe we need to get a stable 1.0 out RRSN, then we can begin to prioritize the new features for 1.1. High on my list is internationalization and an improved Web navigation interface. Longer term, I'm looking at Zope <www.zope.org> as a possible platform for Mailman. I know John, Ken, and Scott all have their priorities too. Big thanks go to those guys, and especially Scott Cotton, for their work on this release. Enjoy, and have a Happy New Year. -Barry -------------------- snip snip -------------------- 1.0b7 - Many, many bug fixes. Some performance improvements for large lists. Some improvements in the Web interfaces. Some security improvements. Improved compatibility with Python 1.5. - bin/convert_list and bin/populate_new_list have been replaced by bin/add_members. - Admins can now get notification on subscriptions and unsubscriptions. Post are now logged. - The username portion of email addresses are now case-preserved for delivery purposes. All other address comparisions are case-insensitive. - New default SMTP_MAX_RCPTS that limits the number of "RCPT TO" SMTP commands that can be given for a single message. Most MTAs have some hard limit. - "Precedence: bulk" header and "List-id:" header are now added to all outgoing messages. The latter is not added if the message already has a "List-id:" header. See RFC 2046 and draft-chandhok-listid-02 for details. - The standard (as of Python 1.5.2) smtplib.py is now used. - The install process now compiles all the .py files in the installation. - Versions of the Mailman papers given at IPC7 and LISA-98 are now included.

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Upgrade from 1.0b4 -> 1.0b7 fails
by Wayne Knowles Jan. 6, 1999

Jan. 6, 1999

I have been running Mailman version 1.0b4 for a while, and decided it was about time to upgrade to the latest version. Everything went well until the point of running the "make update" script then got the following error: ***** ***** If you are installing over an old installation, please ***** run "make update". See the UPGRADING file for details. ***** katipo 130% make update Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/update", line 10, in ? from Mailman.MailList import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 30, in ? import Utils File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 509, in ? def chunkify(members, chunksize=mm_cfg.DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE): AttributeError: DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE was not defined in my old mm_cfg.py file, and the mm_cfg.py wasn't installed overtop, but as mm_cfg.py.dist Since the site config is standard I copied across mm_cfg.py.dist into mm_cfg.py and make update completed. The Python version isn't quite kosher, but I don't think it matters: Python 1.5.2a2 (#5, Dec 15 1998, 13:16:57) [GCC 2.7.2.1] on freebsd2 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam >>> Did I install 1.0b4 incorrectly, or does the update script need to be fixed to work around the problem? BTW - The known problem building under FreeBSD using BSD Make appears to be fixed (have tested on FreeSBD 2.2.5 and 3.0-current). I no longer need GNU Make or hack the Makefile by hand. Wayne -- _____ Wayne Knowles, Systems Manager / o \/ National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research Ltd \/ v /\ P.O. Box 14-901 Kilbirnie, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND `---' Email: w.knowles(a)niwa.cri.nz

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] small sec problem / or feuture (?)
by Harald Meland Jan. 6, 1999

Jan. 6, 1999

[Bencsath Boldizsar] > But the mail, that was distributed by the list contains a header: > From: Szecsei(a)sas.fph.hu, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vir=E1g?= > <fszecsei(a)mail.matav.hu> > > I'm not sure, it might be a problem in sendmail or anything, i thing the > original address was > From: Szecsei, Vira'g <fszecsei(a)mail.matav.hu> This very much sounds like something that the MTA, and not Mailman, would do. RFC822 specifies that addresses in the From: header should not be unqualified, and thus many MTAs try "fixing" such broken headers by adding and "@" and some local domain. I think trying to implement something in Mailman to stop messages whose headers appear to have been subject to such (possibly incorrect) address qualification, would be: 1) Very nearly impossible to get anywhere close to correct 2) Uncalled for. This is simply not a job Mailman should take on Basically the problem in Szecsei's case is that he inserted a "," in the real name part of his From address, thereby really making it into _two_ separate addresses (one of them unqualified). The problems start with the insertion of that pesky extra ",", and that's where this should be fixed. -- Harald

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small sec problem / or feuture (?)
by Bencsath Boldizsar Jan. 6, 1999

Jan. 6, 1999

Hi, I am not list member, but didn't find any bugreport address in the docs of mailman ( please make one.. :) ) So, in 1.0b6 there is a small problem: Pendig messages can be seen by anyone / i didn't checked the privacy options, but it's more logical, that pending messages are only viewable by the admin through the password. check http://www.anything.something/mailman/admindb/<listname> boldi -------------------------------- Bencsath Boldizsar boldi(a)inf.bme.hu boldi(a)rulez.org greetings to mol S.A.I.C. VIP Protection SASSTIXS http://www.inf.bme.hu/~boldi --------------------------------

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Send digest at a specific time
by Hermann Benedek Jan. 5, 1999

Jan. 5, 1999

I want the digest to be sent a specific time, eg. at midnight, but I can't set the sent-out-time. It would be great if I could set the max. digest size to 0, and set a "send-time" variable to the time when I want to send out the digests. Any idea? Udv Bence

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