Mailman 3 August 1999 - Mailman-Developers

External Archiving Patch
by Paul Hebble 03 Sep '99

03 Sep '99

Hi all, This patch should let the administrator specify alternative external archivers. All you have to do is set the PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER and/or PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER variables to the command line you wish to use. If you put "$LISTNAME" or "${LISTNAME}" in the command line, it is replaced with the name of the list. Mailman will run the command line and pipe each post to it. The main advantage to this is that all post filtering is done without having to subscribe a procmailrc to the list. This prevents list-admins from accidentally unsubscribing the archiver. If the variables given above are set to "" (the default), Mailman will fall back to the built-in Pipermail archiver, so this should not break any existing installations. My apologies for using regsub, but I have not been able to find enough documentation on the re module. Perhaps someone better acquainted with it could migrate this patch to it? -- Paul Hebble <hebble(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu> -- BEGIN PATCH (Also attached in gzip format) diff -Nru --exclude=CVS --exclude=Makefile --exclude=crontab.in --exclude=mm_cfg.py.dist --exclude=*.pyc --exclude=.*.tmp --exclude=config.* mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py mailman-archiving/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py --- mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py Thu Jul 1 13:59:51 1999 +++ mailman-archiving/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py Tue Aug 3 09:46:14 1999 @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ import sys, os, string import errno from Mailman.Utils import reraise, mkdir +import regsub # # package/project modules @@ -174,6 +175,13 @@ # Resurrect original date setting. post.SetHeader('Date', olddate) + def ExternalArchive(self, ar, txt): + regsub.gsub("\$LISTNAME\>", self.real_name, ar) + regsub.gsub("\${LISTNAME}", self.real_name, ar) + extarch = os.popen(ar, "w") + extarch.write(txt) + extarch.close() + # # archiving in real time this is called from list.post(msg) # @@ -207,6 +215,16 @@ if line and line[:5] == 'From ': line = '>' + line txt = txt + "%s\n" % line + if not self.archive_private \ + and mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER is not "" and \ + mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER is not "pipermail": + ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt) + os._exit(0) + if self.archive_private \ + and mm_cfg.PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER is not "" and \ + mm_cfg.PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER is not "pipermail": + ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt) + os._exit(0) f = StringIO(txt) import HyperArch h = HyperArch.HyperArchive(self) diff -Nru --exclude=CVS --exclude=Makefile --exclude=crontab.in --exclude=mm_cfg.py.dist --exclude=*.pyc --exclude=.*.tmp --exclude=config.* mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py mailman-archiving/Mailman/Defaults.py --- mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py Wed Aug 4 10:16:26 1999 +++ mailman-archiving/Mailman/Defaults.py Tue Aug 3 09:14:44 1999 @@ -62,6 +62,8 @@ # DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_VOLUME_FREQUENCY = 1 +PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = "" +PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = "" HOME_PAGE = 'index.html' MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME diff -Nru --exclude=CVS --exclude=Makefile --exclude=crontab.in --exclude=mm_cfg.py.dist --exclude=*.pyc --exclude=.*.tmp --exclude=config.* mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.in mailman-archiving/Mailman/Defaults.py.in --- mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.in Mon Aug 2 11:42:20 1999 +++ mailman-archiving/Mailman/Defaults.py.in Tue Aug 3 09:15:02 1999 @@ -62,6 +62,8 @@ # DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_VOLUME_FREQUENCY = 1 +PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = "" +PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = "" HOME_PAGE = 'index.html' MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] German translation
by Nigel Metheringham 31 Aug '99

31 Aug '99

I may be telling you something you already know, but earlier this year The Perl Journal had a very good article on internationalization and all the pitfalls. Its generic rather than particularly perl specific, so could be worth a look before anything is set in stone. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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German translation
by Roland Scheike 31 Aug '99

31 Aug '99

Hi, last week I tried to translate all the html-files and mail messages into german. Doing this I noticed that most of the messages repeat often and are spread over different files (e.g. HTMLFormatter.py, MailCommandHandler.py aso.). Now I think about the following idea: Wouldn`t it be a good idea to substitute the messages with variables and to take the messages then out of a text-file? The advantage would be a "language independent" version of mailman. You would only have to translate the message-file into your preffered language without grabbing through various Python, HTML and Text-files. I think a "language independent" version could be a reason for a lot more people to use mailman instead of majordomo or something else! By the way: For me mailman is the most comfortable mailing list software around! Congratulations to the coders ! Response from the coders of mailman or other interrested people would be welcome! Thanks a lot from germany Roland -- [-------------------------------------------] [ R².NET, Damm & Scheike GbR ] [ Zum Herrlesgrund 1 91287 Plech ] [ fon. +49 9244 92330 fax. +49 9244 92430 ] [ roland.scheike(a)r2-net.de ] [ http://www.r2-net.de ] [-------------------------------------------]

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thouhts on web scripts & sending mail
by RicardoKustner 31 Aug '99

31 Aug '99

Hi, >From what i've noticed, when an action in the mailman web interface sends out a message, it does this directly by calling another part of the system that makes the smtp connection. Sending out just one message this way is probably not much of a problem... but if it sends out a large batch of messages (like when you approve a large number of messages), the http connection is staying open untill all of the messages are send to the MTA on the localhost... I was wondering if maybe it could be better if the cgi scripts 'mark' messages as being allowed to post to the list, and a mailman cron job picking them up next time... i think this could also make the UID-thing a bit less complicated as the cgi scripts don't have to send out any mail, just make a small change in the database. And maybe this also can prevent the high system loads when the cgi scripts are feeding messages to the MTA and the MTA is trying to deliver most of them at the same time (at least, that's what's happening in my mailman/exim configuration) maybe i'm completely wrong, but these were just my thoughts :) Ricardo. --

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QMail Patch
by Sean Reifschneider 30 Aug '99

30 Aug '99

Here's a patch for Defaults.py which adds a variable named "MTA", and sets it to "qmail" if the directory /var/qmail exists. Also included is a patch to newlist which if MTA is set to "qmail" displays the commands required to create the specified aliases using the "~alias/.qmail" method. I'm not really happy with all the "SM*" keys added to the dict, but I think that the goal of making the sendmail aliases prettier is a good one... Maybe it would make more sense to remove the SM* ones and have a set of routines for each MTA like: def display_aliases_qmail(dict): print 'whatever' def display_aliases_sendmail(dict): for key in ( 'admin', 'owner1', 'owner2', 'list' ): dict[key] = '%-24s' % ( dict[key] + ':' ) print 'whatever' def display_aliases_default(dict): print "Don't know how to set up aliases for your MTA." print print "You will have to manually set up aliases for the following" print "addresses:" print [...] [...] try: eval('display_aliases_%s(dict)' % mm_cfg.MTA) except NameError: display_aliases_default(dict) Sean ============================================= *** bin/newlist.orig Mon Aug 30 08:43:32 1999 --- bin/newlist Sun Aug 29 18:45:01 1999 *************** *** 98,122 **** sys.exit(1) ###os.system('%s %s' % (ADDALIASES_CMD, list_name)) ! print ''' Entry for aliases file: ## %(listname)s mailing list ## created: %(date)s %(user)s ! %(list)s "|%(wrapper)s post %(listname)s" ! %(admin)s "|%(wrapper)s mailowner %(listname)s" ! %(request)s "|%(wrapper)s mailcmd %(listname)s" ! %(owner1)s %(listname)s-admin ! %(owner2)s %(listname)s-admin ! ''' % {'listname': list_name, ! 'list' : "%-24s" % (list_name + ":"), ! 'wrapper' : '%s/wrapper' % mm_cfg.WRAPPER_DIR, ! 'admin' : "%-24s" % ("%s-admin:" % list_name), ! 'request' : "%-24s" % ("%s-request:" % list_name), ! 'owner1' : "%-24s" % ("owner-%s:" % list_name), ! 'owner2' : "%-24s" % ("%s-owner:" % list_name), ! 'date' : time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y', time.localtime(time.time())), ! 'user' : getusername(), } if len(argv) < 5: --- 98,144 ---- sys.exit(1) ###os.system('%s %s' % (ADDALIASES_CMD, list_name)) ! print '%s %s' % (ADDALIASES_CMD, list_name) ! ! if mm_cfg.MTA == 'qmail': ! aliases = ''' ! To create system aliases: ! ! echo '|%(wrapper)s post %(listname)s' >~alias/.qmail-%(list)s ! echo '|%(wrapper)s mailowner %(listname)s' >~alias/.qmail-%(admin)s ! echo '|%(wrapper)s mailcmd %(listname)s' >~alias/.qmail-%(request)s ! echo '&%(listname)s-admin' >~alias/.qmail-%(owner1)s ! echo '&%(listname)s-admin' >~alias/.qmail-%(owner2)s ! chmod 644 ~alias/.qmail-%(list)s ~alias/.qmail-%(admin)s ! chmod 644 ~alias/.qmail-%(request)s ~alias/.qmail-%(owner1)s ! chmod 644 ~alias/.qmail-%(owner2)s ! ''' ! else: ! aliases = ''' Entry for aliases file: ## %(listname)s mailing list ## created: %(date)s %(user)s ! %(SMlist)s "|%(wrapper)s post %(listname)s" ! %(SMadmin)s "|%(wrapper)s mailowner %(listname)s" ! %(SMrequest)s "|%(wrapper)s mailcmd %(listname)s" ! %(SMowner1)s %(listname)s-admin ! %(SMowner2)s %(listname)s-admin ! ''' ! print aliases % {'listname': list_name, ! 'list' : list_name, ! 'SMlist' : "%-24s" % (list_name + ":"), ! 'wrapper' : '%s/wrapper' % mm_cfg.WRAPPER_DIR, ! 'admin' : "%s-admin" % list_name, ! 'SMadmin' : "%-24s" % ("%s-admin:" % list_name), ! 'request' : "%s-request" % list_name, ! 'SMrequest' : "%-24s" % ("%s-request:" % list_name), ! 'owner1' : "owner-%s" % list_name, ! 'SMowner1' : "%-24s" % ("owner-%s:" % list_name), ! 'owner2' : "%s-owner" % list_name, ! 'SMowner2' : "%-24s" % ("%s-owner:" % list_name), ! 'date' : time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y', time.localtime(time.time())), ! 'user' : getusername(), } if len(argv) < 5: *** Mailman/Defaults.py.orig Sun Aug 29 18:17:13 1999 --- Mailman/Defaults.py Sun Aug 29 18:22:49 1999 *************** *** 300,307 **** PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'archives/public') PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'archives/private') # The Mailman version, also set by configure VERSION = "1.0" # Data file version number ! DATA_FILE_VERSION = 15 --- 300,313 ---- PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'archives/public') PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'archives/private') + # autodetect MTA being used, can be overridden in config file. + if os.path.isdir(os.path.join('/var', 'qmail')): + MTA = 'qmail' + else: + MTA = 'sendmail' + # The Mailman version, also set by configure VERSION = "1.0" # Data file version number ! DATA_FILE_VERSION = 16 -- A smart terminal is not a smart*ass* terminal, but rather a terminal you can educate. -- Rob Pike Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo(a)tummy.com> URL: <http://www.tummy.com/xvscan> HP-UX/Linux/FreeBSD/BSDOS scanning software.

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TODO Additions
by Sean Reifschneider 30 Aug '99

30 Aug '99

I'd like to suggest the following additions to the TODO list. As I'm also willing to actually IMPLEMENT them, I'd also like some discussion on it as well. I'll probably start with some smaller tasks just so I can start understanding how mailman thinks. Virtual domain handling It would be nice to have the ability for the CGIs to list only active mailing lists on the host you connected to. Ditto for adding new lists (especially if a web-based interface is available for doing so). I run the mailing lists for a local LUG, and it would be nice if they didn't see other mailing lists on our same server as if they were the LUG mailing lists. QMail/Sendmail Sub-address Matching QMail lets a user manage username-whatever(a)example.com names. I frequently use these to allow me to easily split out mailing lists. However, closed mailing lists don't like it if I submit from "username(a)example.com" when I'm subscribed as "username-lug(a)example.com". Sendmail does something similar, except it uses a '+'. It would be nice to have the membership checking recognise this. Overall, mailman is *REALLY* sweet. I was considering loading Majordomo just because it's so wide-spread, but any modifications I'd want to do, or fixes, would have to be done in Perl. Not if I can help it, please. :-) Somone was mentioning Majordomo 2 would have all this great stuff that it looks like Mailman already has. I'm glad I couldn't *FIND* the Majordomo 2 beta in the end. Sean -- Linux: Bring back that "greased weasel" feeling. -- Sean Reifschneider, 1998 Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo(a)tummy.com> URL: <http://www.tummy.com/xvscan> HP-UX/Linux/FreeBSD/BSDOS scanning software.

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small addtions for web posting
by Steven Hazel 27 Aug '99

27 Aug '99

These simple patches -- submitted in my new insanely generous 30-line context diff fashion -- will add <MM-Post></MM-Post> anchors to link to the postmsg script, and use them in the listinfo.html template. -S ===File mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py.diff====================== Index: HTMLFormatter.py =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cherub/cvs/mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -3 -0 -r1.1 -r1.2 *** HTMLFormatter.py 1999/07/28 20:42:33 1.1 --- HTMLFormatter.py 1999/08/27 01:32:37 1.2 *************** *** 282,386 **** --- 282,391 ---- whom = 'Admin address:' # Solicit the user and password. container.AddItem(self.RestrictedListMessage('subscribers list', self.private_roster) + " Enter your " + string.lower(whom[:-1]) + " and password to visit" " the subscribers list: <center> " + whom + " ") container.AddItem(self.FormatBox('roster-email')) container.AddItem(" Password: " + self.FormatSecureBox('roster-pw') + "  ") container.AddItem(SubmitButton('SubscriberRoster', 'Visit Subscriber List')) container.AddItem("</center>") return container def FormatFormStart(self, name, extra=''): base_url = self.GetAbsoluteScriptURL(name) if extra: full_url = "%s/%s" % (base_url, extra) else: full_url = base_url return ('<FORM Method=POST ACTION="%s">' % full_url) def FormatArchiveAnchor(self): return '<a href="%s">' % self.GetBaseArchiveURL() + def FormatPostAnchor(self): + return '<a href="%s">' % self.GetRelativeScriptURL('postmsg') + def FormatFormEnd(self): return '</FORM>' def FormatBox(self, name, size=20): return '<INPUT type="Text" name="%s" size="%d">' % (name, size) def FormatSecureBox(self, name): return '<INPUT type="Password" name="%s" size="15">' % name def FormatButton(self, name, text='Submit'): return '<INPUT type="Submit" name="%s" value="%s">' % (name, text) def FormatReminder(self): if self.send_reminders: return 'Once a month, your password will be emailed to you as a reminder.' return '' def ParseTags(self, template, replacements): text = self.SnarfHTMLTemplate(template) parts = regsub.splitx(text, '</?[Mm][Mm]-[^>]*>') i = 1 while i < len(parts): tag = string.lower(parts[i]) if replacements.has_key(tag): parts[i] = replacements[tag] else: parts[i] = '' i = i + 2 return string.join(parts, '') # This needs to wait until after the list is inited, so let's build it # when it's needed only. def GetStandardReplacements(self): dmember_len = len(self.GetDigestMembers()) member_len = len(self.GetMembers()) return { '<mm-mailman-footer>' : self.GetMailmanFooter(), '<mm-list-name>' : self.real_name, '<mm-email-user>' : self._internal_name, '<mm-list-description>' : self.description, '<mm-list-info>' : string.join(string.split(self.info, '\n'), ' '), '<mm-form-end>' : self.FormatFormEnd(), '<mm-archive>' : self.FormatArchiveAnchor(), '</mm-archive>' : '</a>', + '<mm-post>' : self.FormatPostAnchor(), + '</mm-post>' : '</a>', '<mm-list-subscription-msg>' : self.FormatSubscriptionMsg(), '<mm-restricted-list-message>' : \ self.RestrictedListMessage('current archive', self.archive_private), '<mm-num-reg-users>' : `member_len`, '<mm-num-digesters>' : `dmember_len`, '<mm-num-members>' : (`member_len + dmember_len`), '<mm-posting-addr>' : '%s' % self.GetListEmail(), '<mm-request-addr>' : '%s' % self.GetRequestEmail(), '<mm-owner>' : self.GetAdminEmail(), '<mm-reminder>' : self.FormatReminder(), '<mm-host>' : self.host_name, } def GetAllReplacements(self): """ returns standard replaces plus formatted user lists in a dict just like GetStandardReplacements. """ d = self.GetStandardReplacements() d.update({"<mm-regular-users>": self.FormatUsers(0), "<mm-digest-users>": self.FormatUsers(1)}) return d def InitTemplates(self): def ExtensionFilter(item): return item[-5:] == '.html' files = filter(ExtensionFilter, os.listdir(mm_cfg.TEMPLATE_DIR)) Utils.MakeDirTree(self._template_dir) ============================================================ ===File mailman/templates/listinfo.html.diff======================= Index: listinfo.html =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cherub/cvs/mailman/templates/listinfo.html,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -3 -0 -r1.1 -r1.2 *** listinfo.html 1999/07/28 20:42:34 1.1 --- listinfo.html 1999/08/27 01:34:27 1.2 *************** *** 1,76 **** !  <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE><MM-List-Name> Info Page</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <MM-Subscribe-Form-Start> <TABLE COLS="1" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="4" CELLPADDING="5"> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#99CCFF" ALIGN="CENTER"> <MM-List-Name> -- <MM-List-Description> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2">   </td> </tr> <tr> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> About <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <MM-List-Info> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the <MM-Archive><MM-List-Name> Archives</MM-Archive>. <MM-Restricted-List-Message> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> Using <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> To post a message to all the list members, send email to <A HREF="mailto:<MM-Posting-Addr>"><MM-Posting-Addr></A>. You can subscribe to the list, or change your existing subscription, in the sections below. </td> </tr> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> Subscribing to <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> Subscribe to <MM-List-Name> by filling out the following form. <MM-List-Subscription-Msg> <ul> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="2" CELLPADDING="2" WIDTH="70%" HEIGHT= "112"> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#dddddd" WIDTH="55%">Your email address:</TD> <TD WIDTH="33%"><MM-Subscribe-Box> </TD> <TD WIDTH="12%"> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="3">You must enter a privacy password. This provides only mild security, but should prevent others from messing with your subscription. Do not use valuable passwords! <MM-Reminder> --- 1,80 ---- !  <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE><MM-List-Name> Info Page</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <MM-Subscribe-Form-Start> <TABLE COLS="1" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="4" CELLPADDING="5"> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#99CCFF" ALIGN="CENTER"> <MM-List-Name> -- <MM-List-Description> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2">   </td> </tr> <tr> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> About <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> <MM-List-Info> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the <MM-Archive><MM-List-Name> Archives</MM-Archive>. <MM-Restricted-List-Message> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> Using <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> To post a message to all the list members, send email to <A HREF="mailto:<MM-Posting-Addr>"><MM-Posting-Addr></A>. + + If you are a subscriber, you can post a message to the + mailing list <MM-Post>here</MM-Post>. + You can subscribe to the list, or change your existing subscription, in the sections below. </td> </tr> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="2" WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFF0D0"> Subscribing to <MM-List-Name> </TD> </TR> <tr> <td colspan="2"> Subscribe to <MM-List-Name> by filling out the following form. <MM-List-Subscription-Msg> <ul> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="2" CELLPADDING="2" WIDTH="70%" HEIGHT= "112"> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#dddddd" WIDTH="55%">Your email address:</TD> <TD WIDTH="33%"><MM-Subscribe-Box> </TD> <TD WIDTH="12%"> </TD></TR> <TR> <TD COLSPAN="3">You must enter a privacy password. This provides only mild security, but should prevent others from messing with your subscription. Do not use valuable passwords! <MM-Reminder> ============================================================

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duplicate messages with 1.0
by Gergely Madarasz 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

Hello, I've heard from some users that sometimes they get duplicate messages from the list. Now I got one myself, here they are with full headers. I don't think that it has to do with the fact that I replied to myself in this message.... -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Received: from mlf.linux.rulez.org (mlf.linux.rulez.org [192.188.244.13]) by caesar.elte.hu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA126500 for <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:15:47 +0200 Received: from mlf.linux.rulez.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mlf.linux.rulez.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25029; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:12:08 +0200 Received: from darmol.elte.hu (darmol.elte.hu [157.181.3.1]) by mlf.linux.rulez.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA24949 for <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:11:48 +0200 Received: from caesar.power.elte.hu (caesar.elte.hu [157.181.42.42]) by darmol.elte.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA18043 for <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:11:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:12:53 +0200 (METDST) From: Gergely Madarasz <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu> X-Sender: gorgo(a)caesar.power.elte.hu To: Linux Lista <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org> Subject: Re: RAID + boot + lilo In-Reply-To: <Pine.A32.3.96.990825140640.139089I-100000(a)caesar.power.elte.hu> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.990825141229.139089J-100000(a)caesar.power.elte.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org Sender: linux-admin(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org Errors-To: linux-admin(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: linux kerdesek/valaszok <linux.mlf.linux.rulez.org> X-BeenThere: linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/dev/sdbX > ahol X a /boot particio Ja, es ezt csakis mountolatlan vagy ro mountolt /boot-al -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/ _________________________________________________ linux lista - linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mailman/listinfo/linux ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Received: from mlf.linux.rulez.org (mlf.linux.rulez.org [192.188.244.13]) by caesar.elte.hu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA17705 for <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:15:59 +0200 Received: from mlf.linux.rulez.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mlf.linux.rulez.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25083; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:12:29 +0200 Received: from darmol.elte.hu (darmol.elte.hu [157.181.3.1]) by mlf.linux.rulez.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA24949 for <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:11:48 +0200 Received: from caesar.power.elte.hu (caesar.elte.hu [157.181.42.42]) by darmol.elte.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA18043 for <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:11:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:12:53 +0200 (METDST) From: Gergely Madarasz <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu> X-Sender: gorgo(a)caesar.power.elte.hu To: Linux Lista <linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org> Subject: Re: RAID + boot + lilo In-Reply-To: <Pine.A32.3.96.990825140640.139089I-100000(a)caesar.power.elte.hu> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.990825141229.139089J-100000(a)caesar.power.elte.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org Sender: linux-admin(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org Errors-To: linux-admin(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: linux kerdesek/valaszok <linux.mlf.linux.rulez.org> X-BeenThere: linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/dev/sdbX > ahol X a /boot particio Ja, es ezt csakis mountolatlan vagy ro mountolt /boot-al -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/ _________________________________________________ linux lista - linux(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mailman/listinfo/linux

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post messages from the web
by Steven Hazel 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

Well, my previous mailing inquiring about how to best submit code got no reponse, so I'm submitting as I see fit: namely, via attached files and generous context diffs. Attached are mailman/Mailman/Cgi/postmsg.py, a basic web interface for posting messages, and Message.diff, a 30-line context diff of some minor changes to IncomingMessage which allow postmsg.py to work properly. This is still all very early code, so your beautifcations and suggestions are appriciated. Patches to make the postmsg script accessable via a replacement tag are pending. User accounts are in progress, but further off. -S ===File ~/projects/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/postmsg.py=========== #! /usr/bin/env python # # Copyright (C) 1999 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. """Allows user to log in, setting authentication cookies """ # No lock needed in this script, because we don't change data. from Mailman import auth import Cookie import sys import os, string, cgi from regsub import gsub from Mailman import Utils, MailList, Message, Errors from Mailman import mm_cfg from Mailman.htmlformat import * def main(): global user try: path = os.environ['PATH_INFO'] except KeyError: path = "" list_info = Utils.GetPathPieces(path) list_name = string.lower(list_info[0]) try: list = MailList.MailList(list_name, lock=0) except: list = None if not (list and list._ready): FormatPostmsgStatus(error="List %s not found." % list_name) return if len(list_info) == 0: FormatPostmsgStatus() return global cgi_data cgi_data = cgi.FieldStorage() message = None if cgi_data.has_key('message'): imsg = Message.IncomingMessage(''); fromaddr = cgi_data['from'].value is_auth = 0 try: # admin uses cookies with -admin name suffix is_auth = list.WebAuthenticate(user=fromaddr, password= cgi_data['password'].value) except Errors.MMNotAMemberError: errormsg = 'Incorrect user name or password.' except Errors.MMBadPasswordError: errormsg = 'Incorrect user name or password.' except Errors.MMExpiredCookieError: errormsg = 'Your cookie has gone stale, ' \ 'enter password to get a new one.', except Errors.MMInvalidCookieError: errormsg = 'Error decoding authorization cookie.' except Errors.MMAuthenticationError: errormsg = 'Authentication error.' if (is_auth): imsg.SetHeader('from', fromaddr) else: FormatPostmsgStatus(errormsg) return imsg.SetHeader('subject', cgi_data['subject'].value) imsg.SetHeader('to', list.GetListEmail()) message = cgi_data['message'].value if message[len(message)-1]!='\n': message = "%s\n" % message imsg.SetBody(message) list.Post(imsg) FormatPostmsgStatus('Message Posted') else: doc = Document() doc.SetTitle('Post Message') doc.AddItem('Fill out the form below to post a message to the ') doc.AddItem(list_name) doc.AddItem(' mailing list. ') form = Form(list.GetRelativeScriptURL('postmsg')) doc.AddItem(form) form.AddItem('Email Address: ') form.AddItem(TextBox(name='from', size=30)) form.AddItem(' Password: ') form.AddItem(PasswordBox(name='password')) form.AddItem(' ') form.AddItem(' Subject: ') form.AddItem(TextBox(name='subject', size=30)) form.AddItem(' Post ') form.AddItem(TextArea(name='message', rows=24, cols=80, wrap='soft')) form.AddItem(' ') form.AddItem(SubmitButton('Post','Post Message')) print doc.Format() def FormatPostmsgStatus(error=None): "Simple message posting overview" # XXX We need a portable way to determine the host by which we are being # visited! An absolute URL would do... http_host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST') or\ os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME') port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT') # strip off the port if there is one if port and http_host[-len(port)-1:] == ':'+port: http_host = http_host[:-len(port)-1] if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW and http_host: host_name = http_host else: host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_HOST_NAME doc = Document() doc.SetTitle(error) table = Table(border=0, width="100%") table.AddRow([Center(Header(2, error))]) table.AddCellInfo(max(table.GetCurrentRowIndex(), 0), 0, colspan=2, bgcolor="#99ccff") advertised = [] names = Utils.list_names() names.sort() for n in names: l = MailList.MailList(n, lock = 0) if l.advertised: if (mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW and http_host and (string.find(http_host, l.web_page_url) == -1 and string.find(l.web_page_url, http_host) == -1)): # List is for different identity of this host - skip it. continue else: advertised.append(l) doc.AddItem(table) doc.AddItem('<hr>') doc.AddItem(MailmanLogo()) print doc.Format(bgcolor="#ffffff") if __name__ == "__main__": main() ============================================================ ===File ~/Message.diff====================================== Index: Message.py =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cherub/cvs/mailman/Mailman/Message.py,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -c -3 -0 -r1.1 -r1.4 *** Message.py 1999/07/28 20:42:33 1.1 --- Message.py 1999/08/25 07:58:32 1.4 *************** *** 76,135 **** --- 76,141 ---- # We know the message is gonna come in on stdin or from text for our purposes. class IncomingMessage(rfc822.Message): def __init__(self, text=None): if not text: rfc822.Message.__init__(self, sys.stdin, 0) self.body = self.fp.read() else: rfc822.Message.__init__(self, FakeFile(text), 0) self.body = self.fp.read() self.file_count = None def readlines(self): if self.file_count <> None: x = self.file_count self.file_count = len(self.file_data) return self.file_data[x:] return map(RemoveNewline, self.headers) + [''] + \ string.split(self.body,'\n') def readline(self): if self.file_count == None: self.file_count = 0 self.file_data = map(RemoveNewline, self.headers) + [''] + \ string.split(self.body,'\n') if self.file_count >= len(self.file_data): return '' self.file_count = self.file_count + 1 return self.file_data[self.file_count-1] + '\n' + def SetBody(self, body): + self.body = body + + def AppendToBody(self, text): + self.body = self.body + text + def GetSender(self): # Look for a Sender field. sender = self.getheader('sender') if sender: realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('sender') else: try: realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('from') except: real_name = mail_address = None # We can't trust that any of the headers really contained an address if mail_address and type(mail_address) == type(""): return string.lower(mail_address) else: # The unix from line is all we have left... if self.unixfrom: return string.lower(string.split(self.unixfrom)[1]) def GetEnvelopeSender(self): # # look for unix from line and attain address # from it, return None if there is no unix from line # this function is used to get the envelope sender # when mail is sent to a <listname>-admin address # if not self.unixfrom: return None # XXX assumes no whitespace in address parts = string.split(self.unixfrom) ============================================================

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Volunteering
by Ken Kyler 24 Aug '99

24 Aug '99

Greetings! We have just recently started using MailMan (http://www.eLists.org). We switched from MajorDomo. It is a significant improvement. Although I am a programmer, I'm not very familiar with Python - however I am a fairly good tech writer (http://www.kyler.com). Which leads me to... How does one get involved? It appears you could use some help with the documentation. Ken Kyler

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