Mailman 3 September 1999 - Mailman-Developers

Hard code the reply-to?
by Erik Parker 24 Sep '99

24 Sep '99

Hi all, it appears there is no answer to why its doing this, and now I'm running really low on time. It appears it must be mailman that is writing the reply to as portal.navidec.com, which file can I edit to hard code mailing to set the reply to as list(a)discuss.pentax.com ? Erik Parker eparker(a)mindsec.com

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Exim bouncedetection hack
by Nigel Metheringham 24 Sep '99

24 Sep '99

sgr(a)rotzorg.org said: > i've fiddeled around in Bouncer.py and added code to detect bounces > created by exim. > It's a bit of a dirty hack, as it is my first attempt at python ;-) I hate to criticise since I haven't got around to cutting code to do this and its great that you are working on this.... However I think that parsing the text of the exim bounces is the wrong way to go - exim provides a header on bounce messages to make this sort of function very easy. You will find that all bounce messages from an exim system will have an additional header:- X-failed-recipients: fred(a)flintstone.com Is there are multiple failed recipients, then they will look like this:- X-failed-recipients: fred(a)flintstone.com, barney(a)rubble.com You need to be slightly careful here though since a few mailers that feel it is their duty to rewrite things will munge multiple addresses onto a single line, so a general header address reading function should be used. I guess the other thing that should be done to finish up the job is to detect exim delayed message warnings and ignore them. These have subjects such as:- Warning: message 11SzEO-0004wH-00 delayed 24 hours The best way to detect these is by a regexp on the subject. If you are getting a lot of these messages then it may be worth sending a polite note to the admin of the system generating them suggesting that they set the following config item:- delay_warning_condition = "\ ${if match{$h_precedence:}{(?i)bulk|list|junk}{no}{yes}}" This prevents exim sending out message delay warnings for messages with appropriate precedence header settings. This change is going to be made the default for future versions of exim, but currently unless the admin really knows what they are doing, most exim installations have their configs for this non-optimal. Documentation on this option can be found at http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.00/doc/html/spec_11.html#SEC186 I'll try and code this stuff up using my appalling python skills soon. I'll also attempt to add a mailman related section to the exim pages soon - if it doesn't appear, bug me! Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Exim bouncedetection hack
by Sendy 24 Sep '99

24 Sep '99

Hi, i've fiddeled around in Bouncer.py and added code to detect bounces created by exim. It's a bit of a dirty hack, as it is my first attempt at python ;-) I don't know how to make diffs, so I'll attach the whole Bouncer.py file. My additions are surrounded by # en my name 'Sander'. So search for 'Sander' and you will find the changes (3 blobs, 2 in ScanMessage and 1 in ExtractBouncingAddr) Greetings Sander

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Reply-to feature
by J C Lawrence 24 Sep '99

24 Sep '99

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:50:19 -0600 (MDT) Erik Parker <eparker(a)mindsec.com> wrote: > However, ALL mail coming from the list, has a return address of: > pentax-discuss(a)portal.navidec.com, instead of > pentax-discuss(a)discuss.pentax.com At the bottom of the general optios page set the "Host name this list prefers" to "discuss.pentax.com". -- J C Lawrence Life: http://www.kanga.nu/ Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Work (Linux/IA64): claw(a)varesearch.com ... Beware of cromagnons wearing chewing gum and palm pilots ...

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Reply-to feature
by Erik Parker 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

Hi, This is semi-urgent, as we move from Majordom to Mailman tommorow for a major corporations mailing list (Pentax Cameras)... We have a host setup to CNAME to our listserv machine: discuss.pentax.com points to portal.navidec.com I have discuss.pentax.com : Host name this list prefers. discuss.pentax.com Base URL for Mailman web interface http://discuss.pentax.com/mailman/ However, ALL mail coming from the list, has a return address of: pentax-discuss(a)portal.navidec.com, instead of pentax-discuss(a)discuss.pentax.com I have: Are replies to a post directed to the original poster or to the list? set to -LIST-. They don't want to default to reply to just that person, it has to stay the same as it used to be, and thats replying to the list. THey do about 2000 posts a day, and this goes live in 15 hours... ANY help is appreciated. There must be an option for this. Erik Parker eparker(a)mindsec.com

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umbrella lists and subject prefix (subject_prefix)
by Dan A. Dickey 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

We are beginning to make use of Mailman here (good work!), and we are using it to provide company wide mailing lists. So, we have umbrella lists that distribute to other areas of the company in other parts of the world. So, a list like "listname(a)ourdomain.com" would be an umbrella for: "listname-us(a)ourdomain.com", "listname-uk(a)ourdomain.com", and so on. We've just started doing this, and myself and the administrator working on this quickly became annoyed that the subject lines ended up looking like: Subject: [listname-us] [listname] Test message So, I modified MailList.py a bit so that it not only checks for subject_prefix in the subject, but also all of the acceptable_aliases for the list. So, now when a message is posted to listname, it gets resent to listname-*; while the subject remains as "Subject: [listname] Test message". The patch for this follows. If anyone cares to now fix the little problem of the footer being added by both lists, I'd like to see the patch for that. Its a minor annoyance, but one I can live with for the time being. -Dan -- Dan A. Dickey ddickey(a)wamnet.com *** MailList.py.orig Tue Jul 20 21:19:21 1999 --- MailList.py Thu Sep 23 08:28:48 1999 *************** *** 1130,1135 **** --- 1130,1157 ---- return 1 return 0 + def HasPrefix(self, msg): + """True if subject_prefix or any acceptable_alias is included in + the Subject: .""" + subj = msg.getheader('subject') + # First check for our own subject_prefix: + if re.search(re.escape(self.subject_prefix), subj, re.I): + return 1 + # ... and only then try the regexp acceptable aliases. + for alias in string.split(self.acceptable_aliases, '\n'): + stripped = string.strip(alias) + try: + # The list alias in `stripped` is a user supplied regexp, + # which could be malformed. + if stripped and re.search(stripped, subj, re.I): + return 1 + except re.error: + # `stripped' is a malformed regexp -- try matching + # safely, with all non-alphanumerics backslashed: + if stripped and re.search(re.escape(stripped), subj, re.I): + return 1 + return 0 + def parse_matching_header_opt(self): """Return a list of triples [(field name, regex, line), ...].""" # - Blank lines and lines with '#' as first char are skipped. *************** *** 1306,1313 **** prefix = self.subject_prefix if not subj: msg.SetHeader('Subject', '%s(no subject)' % prefix) ! elif prefix and not re.search(re.escape(self.subject_prefix), ! subj, re.I): msg.SetHeader('Subject', '%s%s' % (prefix, subj)) if self.anonymous_list: del msg['reply-to'] --- 1328,1334 ---- prefix = self.subject_prefix if not subj: msg.SetHeader('Subject', '%s(no subject)' % prefix) ! elif prefix and not self.HasPrefix(msg): msg.SetHeader('Subject', '%s%s' % (prefix, subj)) if self.anonymous_list: del msg['reply-to']

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Error while executing newlist (new one!)
by Wolfram Stumpf 23 Sep '99

23 Sep '99

Hi everybody! After succesfully installing mailman 1.0, I tried to create a test-list with newlist. But instead of creating the list, newlist exits with the following error message: Traceback (innermost last): File "./newlist", line 146, in ? raise SystemExit(main(sys.argv)) File "./newlist", line 93, in main newlist.Create(list_name, owner_mail, pw) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 724, in Create self.Lock() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1379, in Lock self._lock_file.lock('w|', 1) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 190, in lock flock = fcntl.fcntl(self._file_.fileno(), cmd, flock) IOError: (37, 'No locks available') ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ After browsing through the mailing-list archive, I thought the existing patch would work, but it doesn´t. I even tried inserting 'linux2' into posixfile.py, but with no result. I´m working with SuSE 6.1 with Python 1.5.1 and mailman 1.0. Thanks for help! Wolfram Stumpf stumpf(a)rancon.de

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bounce_detection failure
by Sendy 20 Sep '99

20 Sep '99

Hi i've setup mailman op a Debian linux box, but somehow bouncedetection fails, and I cannot find how/what and where... (I'm no python hacker) I have included the message here, taken from my /var/spool/mail/sgr --

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Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by Mail Delivery System 20 Sep '99

20 Sep '99

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: delangen(a)its.tudelft.nl: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO: <delangen(a)its.tudelft.nl>: host mailhost1.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.33.163]: 553 5.1.1 unknown or illegal user: delangen(a)its.tudelft.nl ----- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ Return-path: <lanparty-helden-admin(a)rotzorg.org> Received: from localhost (k298r.balpol.tudelft.nl) [127.0.0.1] by stereo.rotzorg.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11SrFJ-00058j-00; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:23:53 +0200 Received: from sgr by stereo.rotzorg.org with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11SrEp-00058U-00; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:23:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:23:22 +0200 From: Sendy <sgr(a)rotzorg.org> To: lanparty-helden(a)rotzorg.org Message-ID: <19990920022322.A19735(a)stereo.rotzorg.org> Reply-To: sendy(a)dds.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Subject: [Lanparty-helden] test Sender: lanparty-helden-admin(a)rotzorg.org Errors-To: lanparty-helden-admin(a)rotzorg.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0rc2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Mailinglist voor de KB Lanparty organisatoren <lanparty-helden.rotzorg. org> X-BeenThere: lanparty-helden(a)rotzorg.org _______________________________________________ Lanparty-helden mailing list - Lanparty-helden(a)rotzorg.org http://rotzorg.org/mailman/listinfo/lanparty-helden Can somebody help me? TIA Sendy

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something to add to v2,please
by DAFcnc 19 Sep '99

19 Sep '99

Hiya I'm not a list member so reply direct please I've been using mailman to run my list for about 2 months now and it is just great However, there is one thing I'd like to see added to future versions. As the list adminstrator I'd like to be able to extract a full list of members with settings as a 'text file'. The membership management screen only lists 30 at a time in a table. I'd like an option to dump all members, plus the settings, as a lump of text in a <pre></pre> box. I can then copy and paste it to a file for backup purposes, and for mass admin purposes. The settings can simply by a bunch of 1 or 0 in the order of the table headings to indicate the status of those options. I'm use to having such a text listing after using Mercury MTS on a Novell server for 3 years for this list of mine. thanks steam and wind -- David Forsyth DaForce A-T Iwr.Ru.Ac.Za Keeper of the listserver for South African Railways fans _|_ His Part time gricer, kiter, photographer, father etc etc | Way http://www.ru.ac.za/departments/iwr/staff/daf/welcome.html | Up

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