Mailman 3 January 2002 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing Digest numbers
by Dan Mick 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Did I miss a support contract that I was supposed to sign before joining this list? I don't know. Did you look at the source? > DId I miss a message, or was there no reply? How do you change the digest numbers? > > Bob > > > Bob Puff/NLE wrote: > > > > Hey gang, > > > > In 2.0.x, how do you bump the volume number, and reset the digest number back to 1?

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"bug" in pipermail / 2.0.8
by Bill Bradford 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Okay, I had a problem with a list. I've got HTML archives of the list, generated by Mailman, going back to 1999. However, I've only got .mbox archives of the list going back a few months. I deleted the Janurary 2002 files from the archives/private/rescue/database/ directory, went to ~mailman/bin/, and re-ran "arch rescue". This fixed the "corrupt database" problem. Almost. It then regenerated the archives, fixed the problem - and forgot about everything it had before June 2001! Even though there are files in database/ all the way back to '99. The HTML files are still there, but http://www.sunhelp.org/pipermail/rescue/ doesent list them. Any way to fix this, short of hand-editing the index.html? Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Enforcing plain text posting
by George F. Nemeyer 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

- Lists frequently erupt into flames about posts in HTML. - MUA's will often respond to an HTML message by replying in HTML, perpetuating the problem caused by an initial HTML post. - Even users normally posting plain text often slip up, particularly when mailing from other than their normal host. - HTML needlessly eats up to 3 times the storage space for messages in archives, worse if the message is in both HTML and plain text. Mailman needs an option to enforce plain text posts by detecting and rejecting posts in non-plain formats, particularly HTML. The sender should get a polite, canned note to turn off special encoding and re-format their posts in plain text. The note should be customizable so that instructions might be included for how to do so for common MUAs. Please consider adding this feature. (I'd asked about this a long time ago, but I never saw any comment on it.) George Nemeyer Tigerden Internet Services

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iso-something subjects
by Fil 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

Hi, there's been an annoying bug with Mailman, but I never took the time to mention it. Say my list is adding "[spip] " to the subject line if it is not present. I send: Subject: Macédoine ? Mailman receives Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mac=E9doine_?= Mailman sends: Subject: [spip] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mac=E9doine_?= I reply, Mailman receives something that must look like (I don"t have the exact example at hand): Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?%3Dspip%3D_Mac=E9doine_?= does not see [spip], so adds it and sends Subject: [spip] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?%3Dspip%3D_Mac=E9doine_?= In my mailer it is then decoded as Subject: [spip] Re: [spip] Macédoine See? [spip] has been added twice. I guess the subsject line should be iso-decoded before adding the tag, the (maybe?) iso-reencoded. -- Fil

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how to fix corrupt archive?
by Bill Bradford 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): Traceback (most recent call last): Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "../Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", l ine 221, in ArchiveMail Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /pipermail.py", line 528, in processUnixMailbox Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): self.add_article(a) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /HyperArch.py", line 928, in add_article Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): self.__super_add_article(article) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /pipermail.py", line 567, in add_article Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): article.parentID = parentID = self.get_ parent_info(arch, article) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /pipermail.py", line 601, in get_parent_info Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): if parentID and not self.database.hasAr ticle(archive, parentID): Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /HyperDatabase.py", line 267, in hasArticle Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): self.__openIndices(archive) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /HyperDatabase.py", line 245, in __openIndices Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): t = DumbBTree(os.path.join(arcdir, arch ive + '-' + i)) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /HyperDatabase.py", line 68, in __init__ Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): self.load() Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /HyperDatabase.py", line 173, in load Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): self.dict = marshal.load(fp) Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): ValueError: bad marshal data Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 (29784) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: rescue Ack! Any suggestions on how to fix? Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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bin/config_list not working as expected (in current CVS)
by Fil 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

Hi, I tried to # cat > toto bounce_score_threshold = 4.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 15 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 15 # bin/config_list -i toto listname (no error) then go to http://SERVER/mailman/admin/listname/bounce just to find that bounce_score_threshold = 4.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 0 Only one in two has been taken into account !? bin/config_list -o - listname gives: bounce_info_stale_after = 1296000 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 1296000 -- Fil

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a bug in updating to current cvs :
by Fil 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 531, in ? errors = main() File "bin/update", line 413, in main errors = errors + dolist(listname) File "bin/update", line 183, in dolist mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 101, in __init__ self.Load() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 546, in Load self.CheckVersion(dict) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 557, in CheckVersion self.InitVars() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 331, in InitVars baseclass.InitVars(self) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 110, in InitVars }, mlist=self)) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 484, in maketext raise IOError(errno.ENOENT, 'No template file found', templatefile) IOError: [Errno 2] No template file found: 'emptyarchive.html' make: *** [update] Erreur 1 -- Fil

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VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 10 ?
by Fil 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Hi, I'm currently using Mailman version: 2.1a3+ I have set VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = 1 VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1 VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 10 but the messages sent seem to never be VERP'ed, not even one in ten sent. What have I missed? (It VERPs everything when I set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1) -- Fil

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Feature Request - Plain Text Only
by J C Lawrence 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:26:38 +0100 fil <fil(a)rezo.net> wrote: > Here's something that would be most useful against spam: somewhere > in the pipeline check the message against the "razor" (**) spam > database, and send it to the trash if it matches. I've been running Razor in test mode here on my personal mail account for about 5 weeks. To date the false positive rate is about 8%. That's far too high for deployment as a system service. It also has a very high false negative rate (worse than any of the other's I'm testing). SpamAssassion conversely has a false positive rate (over the same period) of 3 messages out of 93,648 (yes, I get a lot of mail at home). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Notes about 2.1a4 version
by Dan Ohnesorg 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

I have also installed this version for testing the Czech translations. And I have found some bugs. The biggest hangs on admin page, becouse I have send it from wrong address. Here are some more: 1) The admin messages doesn't have MIME headers at all: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT this is vitally needed to be in czech emails. 2) Mailman crashes if there is not localized html template for some page. I think it should print only a message or better, use english one from /en/ tree. 3) in file crontab.in is broken this entry # At 9AM, send notifications to disabled members that are due to be # reminded to re-enable their accounts. 0 9 * * * /usr/bin/python2 -S @prefix/cron/disabled there should be @prefix@ 4) in README.POSTFIX is - Run the genaliases script to initialize your aliases file. % cd /usr/local/mailman % bin/genaliases but it doesnt generate postfix aliases without setting MTA = 'Postfix' before. 5) it is not a bug, but the PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL should be settable per list. 6) Hypermail seems be not working, but I am using MHonArc, so I am not sure. But I see, Mailman 2.1 will make revolution in mailing list management. cheers dan -- ________________________________________ DDDDDD DD DD Dan Ohnesorg, supervisor on POWER DD OOOO Dan(a)feld.cvut.cz DD OODDOO Dep. of Power Engineering DDDDDD OO CTU FEL Prague, Bohemia OO OO work: +420 2 24352785;+420 2 24972109 OOOO home: +420 311 679679;+420 311 679311 ________________________________________ Nekdy je rozumne o krok ustoupit, aby se prodlouzil rozbeh.

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