Mailman-Developers December 2002

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[ mailman-Bugs-659011 ] add_members -c publishes member list
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Bugs item #659011, was opened at 2002-12-27 09:10 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=659011&group_i… Category: command line scripts >Group: 2.1 final Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Jost Krieger (jkrieger) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: add_members -c publishes member list Initial Comment: add_members -c uses Message.UserNotification for the "Big changes" message. This puts all recipients into the "To:" field, which has already lead to a privacy complaint at our site. Of course it's also a Really Bad Idea with large lists. Jost ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=659011&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-656341 ] logging of pending request without email
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Bugs item #656341, was opened at 2002-12-19 10:45 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=656341&group_i… Category: (un)subscribing Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed Resolution: Out of Date Priority: 5 Submitted By: Jost Krieger (jkrieger) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: logging of pending request without email Initial Comment: 2.1b6: Pending requests are still not logged with email addresses for me. Patch upcoming. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-30 22:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Already fixed in 2.1rc1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Jost Krieger (jkrieger) Date: 2002-12-27 08:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=45554 My problem is I get the following log line Nov 27 11:49:04 2002 (15650) win-security: pending Sven Kozma 134.147.156.3 which contains everything *but* the email address (for a mail subscription). I put the patch into the wrong place (patches list).. II've appended it again. Jost ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-23 23:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 I don't see a patch, but it definitely works for me, attempting to subscribe either via the web or via email. Are you sure you see nothing in logs/subscribe? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=656341&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-656341 ] logging of pending request without email
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Bugs item #656341, was opened at 2002-12-19 10:45 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=656341&group_i… Category: (un)subscribing Group: 2.1 beta Status: Open >Resolution: Out of Date Priority: 5 Submitted By: Jost Krieger (jkrieger) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: logging of pending request without email Initial Comment: 2.1b6: Pending requests are still not logged with email addresses for me. Patch upcoming. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-30 22:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Already fixed in 2.1rc1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Jost Krieger (jkrieger) Date: 2002-12-27 08:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=45554 My problem is I get the following log line Nov 27 11:49:04 2002 (15650) win-security: pending Sven Kozma 134.147.156.3 which contains everything *but* the email address (for a mail subscription). I put the patch into the wrong place (patches list).. II've appended it again. Jost ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-23 23:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 I don't see a patch, but it definitely works for me, attempting to subscribe either via the web or via email. Are you sure you see nothing in logs/subscribe? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=656341&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-659157 ] wrong charset in discard notice
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Bugs item #659157, was opened at 2002-12-27 16:41 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=659157&group_i… Category: None Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Simone Piunno (pioppo) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: wrong charset in discard notice Initial Comment: Hi, attached a bugfix that sets the charset we use when auto-discarding. (Moderate.py around line 150) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-30 22:29 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 There was no attachment, but your clue was enough for me to guess it. :) Fixed! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=659157&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-658213 ] i18n problem on "Confirm subscription"
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Bugs item #658213, was opened at 2002-12-24 09:27 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=658213&group_i… Category: (un)subscribing Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Daniel Buchmann (avalon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Summary: i18n problem on "Confirm subscription" Initial Comment: Mailman version: 2.1rc1 Wrong language is used for the heading, title and language selection box on the "Confirm subscription" page. The list language is used, not the language chosen by the subscribing user. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=658213&group_i…

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Checkins
by barry＠python.org 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

If anybody has any last minute checkins, get them in now. I plan to tag the tree and make the tarball for the release some time today. It's possible I'll have some time during the next 8 hours or so, but most likely it'll be when I'm done with work tonight (it's 9am my time right now). Cheers, -Barry

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RE: Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 164, Issue 48
by Keith Steward 29 Dec '02

29 Dec '02

Keith -- Keith L. Steward, Ph.D. work: 408-957-7777 x300 cell: 408-250-5213 Email: keith(a)BioinformaticsTech.com Web: http://www.BioinformaticsTech.com Pager: http://www.skytel.com/Paging/pageme.cgi?pin=8499479,1 or call 1-888-849-9479 FAX: 408-226-3215 408-40 (call ahead for setup) -----Original Message----- From: mailman-developers-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-developers-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of mailman-developers-request(a)python.org Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:54 PM To: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 164, Issue 48 Send Mailman-Developers mailing list submissions to mailman-developers(a)python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mailman-developers-request(a)python.org You can reach the person managing the list at mailman-developers-owner(a)python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Developers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue (Danny Terweij) 2. email package bug (Jon Parise) 3. Re: email package bug (Jon Parise) 4. can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue (Keith Steward) 5. FW: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue (Keith Steward) 6. Re: email package bug (Barry A. Warsaw) 7. RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue (Keith Steward) 8. Re: email package bug (Jon Parise) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:12:30 +0100 From: "Danny Terweij" <danny(a)terweij.nl> To: "Keith Steward" <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, <mailman-users(a)python.org>, <mailman-developers(a)python.org> Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue Message-ID: <021501c2af87$61133650$1e00a8c0(a)onsnet.org> References: <3E0F69B7.2000606(a)keithsteward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 |From: Keith Steward |Arghhhh!!! |After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: |mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. |The /etc/aliases includes: |## test1 mailing list |test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" |test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" |test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" |test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" |test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" |test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" |test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" |test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" |test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" |test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Keith, this above is not good!!!! Must be like : ## poema-test mailing list mailman2.1 poema-test: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post poema-test" poema-test-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin poema-test" poema-test-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces poema-test" poema-test-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm poema-test" poema-test-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join poema-test" poema-test-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave poema-test" poema-test-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner poema-test" poema-test-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request poema-test" poema-test-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe poema-test" poema-test-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe poema-test" Danny. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:50:47 -0500 From: Jon Parise <jon(a)horde.org> To: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug Message-ID: <20021229225047.GA10776(a)csh.rit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline One of my list members forwarded me the attached traceback. I'm don't have much clue with regard to the email package, though, so I'm passing it along to the group. The fact that the user who sent me the report is using the French locale may be of note. The attached traceback was generated when the user attempted to unsubscribe from a mailing list to which they belonged. -- Jon Parise (jon(a)horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/) --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:55:45 -0500 From: Jon Parise <jon(a)horde.org> To: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug Message-ID: <20021229225545.GB10776(a)csh.rit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20021229225047.GA10776(a)csh.rit.edu> References: <20021229225047.GA10776(a)csh.rit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:50:47PM -0500, Jon Parise wrote: > The attached traceback was generated when the user attempted to > unsubscribe from a mailing list to which they belonged. It appears the attachment was stripped. Here's an inlined plain text version: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 118, in main unsubscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 392, in unsubscription_confirm op, addr = mlist.ProcessConfirmation(cookie) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1090, in ProcessConfirmation self.ApprovedDeleteMember(addr, whence=whence) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 924, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.SendUnsubscribeAck(name) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 78, in SendUnsubscribeAck Utils.wrap(self.goodbye_msg), self.getMemberLanguage(addr)) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 203, in __init__ self['Subject'] = Header(subject, charset, header_name='Subject') File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 164, in __init__ self.append(s, charset) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 230, in append ustr = unicode(s, incodec) UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) -- Jon Parise (jon(a)horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:31:35 -0800 From: Keith Steward <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> To: mailman-users(a)python.org, mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Developers] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue Message-ID: <3E0F69B7.2000606(a)keithsteward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Arghhhh!!! After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJgjI 3Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use mailman request test1 sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1", ctladdr=<test1-request(a)justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: gBTEUjD30786: DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: to=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) ----------- end segment --------------- *System information:* RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 The /etc/aliases includes: ## test1 mailing list test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Sendmail can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) account on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman *Things i've tried:* 1. ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail 2. path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman' 3. ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 4. copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) into /etc/smrsh 5. changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail 6. by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining about the gid 7. by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid complaint. 8. restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of: * Mailman INSTALL * Mailman README.SENDMAIL * Mailman README.LINUX * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc * the mailman-developers list archives At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon Mailman and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think i've run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important than the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks. -keith s. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:28:56 -0800 From: "Keith Steward" <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> To: <mailman-users(a)python.org>, <mailman-developers(a)python.org> Subject: [Mailman-Developers] FW: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJgjI3Ph8KA AAAQAAAA/ea3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7jfAEAAAAA(a)keithsteward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: keith(a)bioinformaticstech.com Message: 5 Danny, I had it that way (i.e. "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test1" in the /etc/aliases) before, and then tried the "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1", as indicated in the Mailman INSTALL doc. Both gave the "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail" error. thanks Keith -----Original Message----- From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@terweij.nl] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:13 PM To: Keith Steward; mailman-users(a)python.org; mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue |From: Keith Steward |Arghhhh!!! |After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: |mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. |The /etc/aliases includes: |## test1 mailing list |test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" |test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" |test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" |test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" |test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" |test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" |test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" |test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" |test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" |test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Keith, this above is not good!!!! Must be like : ## poema-test mailing list mailman2.1 poema-test: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post poema-test" poema-test-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin poema-test" poema-test-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces poema-test" poema-test-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm poema-test" poema-test-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join poema-test" poema-test-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave poema-test" poema-test-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner poema-test" poema-test-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request poema-test" poema-test-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe poema-test" poema-test-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe poema-test" Danny. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:20:12 -0500 From: barry(a)python.org (Barry A. Warsaw) To: Jon Parise <jon(a)horde.org> Cc: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug Message-ID: <15887.44380.624951.180599(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20021229225047.GA10776(a)csh.rit.edu> <20021229225545.GB10776(a)csh.rit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Any possibility you can send me the message? -Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:31:51 -0800 From: "Keith Steward" <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> To: "'Larry Rosenman'" <ler(a)lerctr.org> Cc: mailman-developers(a)python.org Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue Message-ID: <005801c2afb3$fe0459e0$3800a8c0@STEWARD> In-Reply-To: <106770000.1041211566(a)lerlaptop.lerctr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: keith(a)bioinformaticstech.com Message: 7 Larry, BINGO! You hit the nail on the head !!! Problem solved! Your comment prompted me to review the smrsh.c code within the sendmail distribution. When CMDDIR is not defined by the OS (I couldn't find in in any system *.h files), then in smrsh.c it defaults to /usr/adm/sm.bin/ . Even though RedHat7.2 already has an /etc/smrsh/ directory (including a link entry there for slocal), the Sendmail (at least the 8.11.6 version I downloaded and installed) was not using that directory. Instead, it was looking for the default /usr/adm/sm.bin/. The /etc/smrsh/ directory was a red herring! Once I created the /usr/adm/sm.bin, and chmod 755 (recommended by the smrsch/README within Sendmail), and then set up the symbolic link in there: mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman the problem disappeared. Thanks!!! -keith -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:26 PM To: keith(a)bioinformaticstech.com Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:20:22 -0800 Keith Steward <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > Larry, > > Yes, the /etc/smrsh/ directory contains a symbolic link to the mailman > wrapper: ie. > /etc/smrsh/mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman are you SURE that your SMRSH is set to use /etc/smrsh as it's CMDDIR? Also, did you try it with the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman aliases as someone else pointed out? LER > > Thanks. > > > Keith > > -- > Keith L. Steward, Ph.D. work: 408-957-7777 x300 cell: 408-250-5213 > Email: keith(a)BioinformaticsTech.com > Web: http://www.BioinformaticsTech.com > Pager: http://www.skytel.com/Paging/pageme.cgi?pin=8499479,1 > or call 1-888-849-9479 > FAX: 408-226-3215 408-40 (call ahead for setup) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:08 PM > To: Keith Steward; mailman-users(a)python.org; > mailman-developers(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not > available for sendmail programs" issue > > > Did you put links to the $MAILMANHOME/mail/mailman program in the > CMDDIR directory for your copy of SMRSH? > > LER > > > --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 13:31:35 -0800 Keith Steward > <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > >> >> Arghhhh!!! >> >> After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 >> final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman >> not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous >> things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get >> Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, >> and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's >> confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh >> problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ >> sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, >> size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJ >> g >> jI3 >> Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, >> relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to >> use mailman request test1 >> sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request >> test1", ctladdr=<test1-request(a)justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), >> delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, >> stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: >> gBTEUjD30786: > >> DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: >> to=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, >> mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], >> dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) >> ----------- end segment --------------- >> >> System information: >> RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 >> The /etc/aliases includes: >> ## test1 mailing list >> test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" >> test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" >> test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" >> test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" >> test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" >> test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" >> test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" >> test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" >> test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" >> test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" >> Sendmail > >> can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) >> account > >> on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above >> aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman >> mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman >> >> Things i've tried: >> >> * ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail >> * path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either >> '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman' >> * ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman >> * copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) > into >> /etc/smrsh * changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail >> * by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining > about >> the gid * by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid >> complaint. >> * restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config > >> changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of: >> >> * Mailman INSTALL >> * Mailman README.SENDMAIL >> * Mailman README.LINUX >> * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc >> * the mailman-developers list archives >> At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon > Mailman >> and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think > i've >> run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. >> Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important >> than > >> the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks. >> >> -keith s. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:51:52 -0500 From: Jon Parise <jon(a)horde.org> To: "Barry A. Warsaw" <barry(a)python.org> Cc: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug Message-ID: <20021230035152.GA17317(a)csh.rit.edu> In-Reply-To: <15887.44380.624951.180599(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20021229225047.GA10776(a)csh.rit.edu> <20021229225545.GB10776(a)csh.rit.edu> <15887.44380.624951.180599(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:20:12PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > Any possibility you can send me the message? It looks like it's in the process of building the message when it dies (at least, that's my reading of the trace). How would I go about getting you the message contents? -- Jon Parise (jon(a)horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/) ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers End of Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 164, Issue 48 ***************************************************

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RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue
by Keith Steward 29 Dec '02

29 Dec '02

Larry, BINGO! You hit the nail on the head !!! Problem solved! Your comment prompted me to review the smrsh.c code within the sendmail distribution. When CMDDIR is not defined by the OS (I couldn't find in in any system *.h files), then in smrsh.c it defaults to /usr/adm/sm.bin/ . Even though RedHat7.2 already has an /etc/smrsh/ directory (including a link entry there for slocal), the Sendmail (at least the 8.11.6 version I downloaded and installed) was not using that directory. Instead, it was looking for the default /usr/adm/sm.bin/. The /etc/smrsh/ directory was a red herring! Once I created the /usr/adm/sm.bin, and chmod 755 (recommended by the smrsch/README within Sendmail), and then set up the symbolic link in there: mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman the problem disappeared. Thanks!!! -keith -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:26 PM To: keith(a)bioinformaticstech.com Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:20:22 -0800 Keith Steward <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > Larry, > > Yes, the /etc/smrsh/ directory contains a symbolic link to the mailman > wrapper: ie. > /etc/smrsh/mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman are you SURE that your SMRSH is set to use /etc/smrsh as it's CMDDIR? Also, did you try it with the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman aliases as someone else pointed out? LER > > Thanks. > > > Keith > > -- > Keith L. Steward, Ph.D. work: 408-957-7777 x300 cell: 408-250-5213 > Email: keith(a)BioinformaticsTech.com > Web: http://www.BioinformaticsTech.com > Pager: http://www.skytel.com/Paging/pageme.cgi?pin=8499479,1 > or call 1-888-849-9479 > FAX: 408-226-3215 408-40 (call ahead for setup) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:08 PM > To: Keith Steward; mailman-users(a)python.org; > mailman-developers(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not > available for sendmail programs" issue > > > Did you put links to the $MAILMANHOME/mail/mailman program in the > CMDDIR directory for your copy of SMRSH? > > LER > > > --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 13:31:35 -0800 Keith Steward > <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > >> >> Arghhhh!!! >> >> After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 >> final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman >> not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous >> things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get >> Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, >> and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's >> confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh >> problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ >> sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, >> size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJ >> g >> jI3 >> Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, >> relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to >> use mailman request test1 >> sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request >> test1", ctladdr=<test1-request(a)justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), >> delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, >> stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: >> gBTEUjD30786: > >> DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: >> to=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, >> mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], >> dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) >> ----------- end segment --------------- >> >> System information: >> RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 >> The /etc/aliases includes: >> ## test1 mailing list >> test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" >> test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" >> test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" >> test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" >> test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" >> test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" >> test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" >> test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" >> test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" >> test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" >> Sendmail > >> can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) >> account > >> on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above >> aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman >> mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman >> >> Things i've tried: >> >> * ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail >> * path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either >> '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman' >> * ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman >> * copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) > into >> /etc/smrsh * changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail >> * by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining > about >> the gid * by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid >> complaint. >> * restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config > >> changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of: >> >> * Mailman INSTALL >> * Mailman README.SENDMAIL >> * Mailman README.LINUX >> * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc >> * the mailman-developers list archives >> At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon > Mailman >> and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think > i've >> run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. >> Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important >> than > >> the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks. >> >> -keith s. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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FW: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue
by Keith Steward 29 Dec '02

29 Dec '02

Danny, I had it that way (i.e. "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test1" in the /etc/aliases) before, and then tried the "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1", as indicated in the Mailman INSTALL doc. Both gave the "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail" error. thanks Keith -----Original Message----- From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny@terweij.nl] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:13 PM To: Keith Steward; mailman-users(a)python.org; mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue |From: Keith Steward |Arghhhh!!! |After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: |mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. |The /etc/aliases includes: |## test1 mailing list |test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" |test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" |test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" |test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" |test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" |test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" |test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" |test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" |test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" |test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Keith, this above is not good!!!! Must be like : ## poema-test mailing list mailman2.1 poema-test: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post poema-test" poema-test-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin poema-test" poema-test-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces poema-test" poema-test-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm poema-test" poema-test-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join poema-test" poema-test-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave poema-test" poema-test-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner poema-test" poema-test-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request poema-test" poema-test-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe poema-test" poema-test-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe poema-test" Danny.

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can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue
by Keith Steward 29 Dec '02

29 Dec '02

Arghhhh!!! After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJgjI3Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use mailman request test1 sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1", ctladdr=<test1-request(a)justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: gBTEUjD30786: DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: to=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) ----------- end segment --------------- *System information:* RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 The /etc/aliases includes: ## test1 mailing list test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Sendmail can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) account on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman *Things i've tried:* 1. ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail 2. path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman' 3. ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 4. copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) into /etc/smrsh 5. changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail 6. by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining about the gid 7. by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid complaint. 8. restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of: * Mailman INSTALL * Mailman README.SENDMAIL * Mailman README.LINUX * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc * the mailman-developers list archives At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon Mailman and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think i've run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important than the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks. -keith s.

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