Mailman 3 May 2002 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Editability of messages
by Marc MERLIN May 6, 2002

May 6, 2002

On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:55:01AM -0400, Tom Neff wrote: > "Billie R. McNamara" <billie(a)tnhillbillie.net> wrote: > >We are using version 2.0.8 for a moderated list. But, we aren't able to > >edit messages before approving them (for example, to delete just one > >inappropriate word). > > > >How can we do this? > > There is a FAQ entry that wants you to hand edit various spool files, but > you can patch 2.0.8 to allow message editing. I think the patch will be necessary for mailman 2.1, it unfortunately stores the message on disk in a database format, making hand editing on the mm server not that easy. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f(a)merlins.org for PGP key

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chuckle
by Marc MERLIN May 5, 2002

May 5, 2002

--- Topic for #mailman is Mailman mailinglist manager http://www.list.org/ -- Current stable version: 2.0.10 -- Current devel version: 2.1beta1 --- Topic for #mailman set by ChanServ at Fri Apr 19 12:48:02 --> t1nsley (~notme(a)24-196-133-126.mad.wi.charter.com) has joined #mailman <t1nsley> hrm <t1nsley> has mailman ever been audited? <marcmerlin_home> nope, it pays it taxes on time Ok, ok, I had to share since the audience on the channel was very low :-) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f(a)merlins.org for PGP key

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python scripts to auto generates/removes .qmail-*
by M. Fahrizal Rasad May 5, 2002

May 5, 2002

Dear all, First, I am sorry if my question is more to python script. I am running Mailman (2.0.10) list in the exist virtual domain (qmail+vpopmail, had some users (POP3) and 2 mailing-lists /w ezmlm). Because I dont want to creates/removes files .qmail-* manually, I tried to insert (newbie) script commands in file "newlist", where it will automatically generates .qmail-* in the proper location (Mailman directory OR vpopmail 'domain*name' directory) and it works. The problem is I am a very newbie with python, (in file rmlist) I don't know how to create script commands to removes the relevant .qmail-* automatically, any help for the script would be appreciated. Thanks. configured with: --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=vchkpw \ --with-cgi-id=nobody --with-cgi-gid=nobody mm_cfg.py : ----------- DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'list.add.com.id' #example MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail' # vpopmail domains directory, usually '/home/vpopmail/domains', # '' if not using vpopmail (virtual list only domains) VPDPREFIX = '/home/vpopmail/domains' from file bin/newlist : ----------------------- ... ... print STDOUTMSG print output ##--start-- insert--## # will creates .qmail-* at PREFIX directory or at vpopmail 'domain*name' # directory (/home/vpopmail/domains/list.add.com.id) for listname 'test': # .qmail-test, .qmail-owner-test, .qmail-test-admin, .qmail-test-owner, # .qmail-test-request if style == 'qmail': from Mailman.mm_cfg import PREFIX, DEFAULT_HOST_NAME, VPDPREFIX WRAPLOC = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'mail', 'wrapper') if VPDPREFIX != '': DOTLOC = os.path.join(VPDPREFIX, DEFAULT_HOST_NAME) else: DOTLOC = PREFIX dotq='.qmail-' dotqext = open(DOTLOC+"/"+dotq+listname, 'w') dotqext.write( "|preline " +WRAPLOC +" post " +listname +"\012" ) dotqext.close() dotqext = open(DOTLOC+"/"+dotq+listname+"-admin", "w" ) dotqext.write( "|preline " +WRAPLOC +" mailowner " +listname +"\012" ) dotqext.close() dotqext = open(DOTLOC+"/"+dotq+listname+"-owner", "w" ) dotqext.write( "|preline " +WRAPLOC +" mailowner " +listname +"\012" ) dotqext.close() dotqext = open(DOTLOC+"/"+dotq+"owner-"+listname, "w" ) dotqext.write( "|preline " +WRAPLOC +" mailowner " +listname +"\012" ) dotqext.close() dotqext = open(DOTLOC+"/"+dotq+listname+"-request", "w" ) dotqext.write( "|preline " +WRAPLOC +" mailcmd " +listname +"\012" ) dotqext.close() ##-- end --## if appendfile: fp = open(appendfile, 'a') fp.write(output) fp.write('\n') fp.close() ... ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ mailman-Patches-518863 ] syncmail patch: unified + contextlines
by noreply＠sourceforge.net May 4, 2002

May 4, 2002

Patches item #518863, was opened at 2002-02-17 16:07 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=518863&group_id… Category: mail delivery Group: None >Status: Closed >Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Submitted By: Carsten Klapp (carstenklapp) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: syncmail patch: unified + contextlines Initial Comment: This patch allows the number of context lines to be specified when requesting emailed unified diffs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-05-04 16:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Can you resubmit this on the cvs-syncmail project at SourceForge? It's not really relevant to the Mailman project. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=518863&group_id…

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[ mailman-Bugs-551730 ] traceback on double rename
by noreply＠sourceforge.net May 4, 2002

May 4, 2002

Bugs item #551730, was opened at 2002-05-03 02:50 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=551730&group_id… Category: (un)subscribing Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Marc Merlin (marcmerlin) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: traceback on double rename Initial Comment: I have a user who says he got this on mailman 2.1b1cvs He explains below how he did it. ----- Forwarded message from David T-G <davidtg(a)justpickone.org> ----- Subject: Mailman results for Empeg-faq From: empeg-faq-request(a)merlins.org To: davidtg-empeg(a)justpickone.org X-List-Administrivia: yes This is an automated response. There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via the administrative address empeg-faq-request(a)empeg.merlins.org. To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to empeg-faq-request(a)empeg.merlins.org with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, please send your message to empeg-faq-owner(a)empeg.merlins.org. The following is a detailed description of the problems. ***** confirm 97bbfd70939538b155776d5e652af14bc6032c36 >>>>> An unexpected Mailman error has occurred. >>>>> >>>>> Please forward your request to the human list administrator in charge >>>>> of this list at <empeg-faq-owner(a)empeg.merlins.org>. The traceback is >>>>> attached below and will be forwarded to the list administrator >>>>> automatically. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 273, in ParseMailCommands self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 727, in ProcessConfirmCmd results = self.ProcessConfirmation(args[0], msg) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1041, in ProcessConfirmation self.ApprovedChangeMemberAddress(oldaddr, newaddr, globally) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 976, in ApprovedChangeMemberAddress self.changeMemberAddress(oldaddr, newaddr) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 234, in changeMemberAddress self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member NotAMemberError: davidtg(a)bigfoot.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from David T-G <davidtg(a)justpickone.org> ----- % Were you trying to change your subscription from davidtg(a)bigfoot.com to % davidtg-empeg(a)justpickone.org via the mail interface? No; I did it thru the web interface. % If so, do you mind sending me a copy of the mails you sent to the list % manager (I run a devel version of the upcoming mailman, and I try to help Sorry; any sort of subscribe and confirm messages I just toss in the bit bucket. In addition, once the subscriptions were confirmed, I tossed the list server messages as well. Sorry! % out with small bugs. This one seems to be minor, but we should probably look % into it anyway) Sorry :-) It should be easy to duplicate, though; subscribe to two lists (like empeg-faq and empeg-announce), open two web browsers, go to the two list control pages and log in on each, and then send a change from one and a change from the other. Remember to hit "global" at some point along the way. When replying to the confirmation messages, reply to the first before doing the global change but the second, which might confusingly arrive after said global change, later after the web is done. ----- End forwarded message ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=551730&group_id…

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Traceback on double rename
by Marc MERLIN May 3, 2002

May 3, 2002

I have a user who says he got this on mailman 2.1b1cvs He explains below how he did it. ----- Forwarded message from David T-G <davidtg(a)justpickone.org> ----- Subject: Mailman results for Empeg-faq From: empeg-faq-request(a)merlins.org To: davidtg-empeg(a)justpickone.org X-List-Administrivia: yes This is an automated response. There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via the administrative address empeg-faq-request(a)empeg.merlins.org. To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to empeg-faq-request(a)empeg.merlins.org with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, please send your message to empeg-faq-owner(a)empeg.merlins.org. The following is a detailed description of the problems. ***** confirm 97bbfd70939538b155776d5e652af14bc6032c36 >>>>> An unexpected Mailman error has occurred. >>>>> >>>>> Please forward your request to the human list administrator in charge >>>>> of this list at <empeg-faq-owner(a)empeg.merlins.org>. The traceback is >>>>> attached below and will be forwarded to the list administrator >>>>> automatically. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 273, in ParseMailCommands self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 727, in ProcessConfirmCmd results = self.ProcessConfirmation(args[0], msg) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1041, in ProcessConfirmation self.ApprovedChangeMemberAddress(oldaddr, newaddr, globally) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 976, in ApprovedChangeMemberAddress self.changeMemberAddress(oldaddr, newaddr) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 234, in changeMemberAddress self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member NotAMemberError: davidtg(a)bigfoot.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from David T-G <davidtg(a)justpickone.org> ----- % Were you trying to change your subscription from davidtg(a)bigfoot.com to % davidtg-empeg(a)justpickone.org via the mail interface? No; I did it thru the web interface. % If so, do you mind sending me a copy of the mails you sent to the list % manager (I run a devel version of the upcoming mailman, and I try to help Sorry; any sort of subscribe and confirm messages I just toss in the bit bucket. In addition, once the subscriptions were confirmed, I tossed the list server messages as well. Sorry! % out with small bugs. This one seems to be minor, but we should probably look % into it anyway) Sorry :-) It should be easy to duplicate, though; subscribe to two lists (like empeg-faq and empeg-announce), open two web browsers, go to the two list control pages and log in on each, and then send a change from one and a change from the other. Remember to hit "global" at some point along the way. When replying to the confirmation messages, reply to the first before doing the global change but the second, which might confusingly arrive after said global change, later after the web is done. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f(a)merlins.org for PGP key

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mile long subject prefixes
by Dan Mick May 3, 2002

May 3, 2002

> OK, personally, I think subject prefixes are evil, but I understand some > folks like them. But: > > "[Mailman-Developers] [ mailman-Feature Requests-502278 ]" > > as a subject prefix is just INSANE. > > Can someone please do _something_ useful about this? Like, suggest procmail for those who can't take it anymore?

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-551892 ] Easy interface for "moderate first post"
by noreply＠sourceforge.net May 3, 2002

May 3, 2002

Feature Requests item #551892, was opened at 2002-05-03 10:31 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=551892&group_id… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: David Abrahams (david_abrahams) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Easy interface for "moderate first post" Initial Comment: My mailing list has a "moderate first-time posters" policy. I'd like it if that were easier to manage with Mailman. The interface should provide an explicit setting for this. The moderation response for first-time posters should be optionally set to "approve" by default and there should be a checkbox (optionally unchecked by default) labelled "moderate future postings" which allows the moderator to quickly approve a poster for unmoderated posting. As far as I could tell from my quick look at 2.1, there was no similarly convenient facility. Thanks, Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=551892&group_id…

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Mile long subject prefixes
by Carson Gaspar May 3, 2002

May 3, 2002

OK, personally, I think subject prefixes are evil, but I understand some folks like them. But: "[Mailman-Developers] [ mailman-Feature Requests-502278 ]" as a subject prefix is just INSANE. Can someone please do _something_ useful about this? -- Carson

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[ mailman-Patches-551327 ] Makefile fix so that errors propagate
by noreply＠sourceforge.net May 3, 2002

May 3, 2002

Patches item #551327, was opened at 2002-05-02 05:17 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=551327&group_id… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Daniel Resare (noa) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Makefile fix so that errors propagate Initial Comment: While I was trying to build mailman-2.1b1 as an rpm i encountered problems with my python installation that made the build in misc fail. Unfortunately, the error didn't propagate to the toplevel make process so it took some time to track down. The attached patch simply propagates any errors from make subprocesses to the topelevel make in an automake like fashion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-05-03 09:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 No problem. No the patch was easy to understand, I just don't think it goes far enough. See the simple mistake I introduced that didn't stop the build process. By comprehensive I mean that more Makefile.in's probably need to be patched so that any error in any of them will stop the build process. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Daniel Resare (noa) Date: 2002-05-03 04:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=24013 Since english is not my first language I don't understand what you mean with 'comprehensive'. Does it indicate that my patch is hard to understand? (Sounds unlikely to me) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-05-02 21:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 I think a more comprehensive solution might be necessary. I introduced a delivery mistake (calling it email-2.0.3 in misc/Makefile.in) and the build process didn't stop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=551327&group_id…

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