Mailman 3 October 2003 - Mailman-Developers

Mass Subscriptions
by Wendt, Trevor Oct. 9, 2003

Oct. 9, 2003

Is there a way to Mass Subscribe users with email address AND names? -Trevor

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Multiple dicts containing subscribers within MailList pickle?
by Andrew A. Raines Oct. 9, 2003

Oct. 9, 2003

Greetings, I'm new to Mailman development, so bear with me. I didn't see anything in the archives addressing this, but my searches weren't too complex. There's probably good reason for this design, but why have multiple dicts within the MailList infrastructure duplicating the subscriber list? In [config.pck]: 'passwords': { 'sub1(a)foo.dom': 'pass', 'sub2(a)foo.dom': 'pass' } 'members': { 'sub1(a)foo.dom': 0, 'sub2(a)foo.dom': 0 } 'usernames': { 'sub1(a)foo.dom': u'Subscriber One!', 'sub2(a)foo.dom': u'Subscriber Two!' } 'user_options: { 'sub1(a)foo.dom': 264, 'sub2(a)foo.dom': 392 } Seems like it would be more straightforward (in design, at least; maybe not in practice) to store it with nested dicts like: 'subscribers': { 'sub1(a)foo.dom': { 'password': 'pass', 'digest': 0, 'username': u'Subscriber One!', 'options': 264 } 'sub2(a)foo.dom': { 'password': 'pass', 'digest': 1, 'username': u'Subscriber Two!', 'options': 392 } } There tends to be more consistency with this approach than, for instance, having a members dict *and* a digest_members dict which could each be empty. Why not just toggle a subvalue within a master subscriber database dict? Thanks, -Drew

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] FW: [Mailman-Users] DirecPC, MailShield and VERP
by J C Lawrence Oct. 9, 2003

Oct. 9, 2003

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:58:27 -0500 Jeff Hahn <jeffh(a)gryphongardens.com> wrote: > I'm still trying to figure a way around this problem... Any ideas on > a way to say "don't VERP this address"? Try changing the plus addressing character to a '-' instead of '+'. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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FW: [Mailman-Users] DirecPC, MailShield and VERP
by Jeff Hahn Oct. 8, 2003

Oct. 8, 2003

I'm still trying to figure a way around this problem... Any ideas on a way to say "don't VERP this address"? Thanks! -Jeff -----Original Message----- In their infinite wisdom, DirecWay/DirecPC appear to be using a program that rejects VERP'd from addresses. The non-VERP'd messages are delivered by exim... 2003-10-03 08:38:38 1A5Q8F-0005zh-00 => xxxxxxxx(a)direcway.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp H=mx1.direcpc.com [66.82.4.72] C="250 2.5.0 Ok. (relayed by MailShield)" The VERP'd messages are rejected... 2003-10-03 08:35:43 1A5Q5u-0005vu-02 ** xxxxxxxx(a)direcway.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<listname-bounces+xxxxxxxx=direcway.com(a)lists.gryphongardens.com> SIZE=4682: host mx1.direcpc.com [66.82.4.72]: 550 SMTP session aborted; 2 Is there anyway to disable VERP (which has proved very useful in handling bounces) on a per recipient or per list basis???? ------------------------------------------------------

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msgmerge
by Ron Jarrell Oct. 8, 2003

Oct. 8, 2003

The comment in the makefile that says something like "You shouldn't have to do this, but if you need to rebuild the catalogs you'll need gnu make and msgmerge from the gnu gettext" probably ought to include a version number. I *did* have gettext; it was part of the big solaris 9 gnu utils disk (which saves an awful lot of time of installing stuff :-)). It was, however, 0.10.35, and that version doesn't have the -U option. I downloaded 0.12.1 and built and installed it, and *that* version does... Now I can go back to running make on my cvs update :-)

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A couple of questions.
by Mike Lucas Oct. 8, 2003

Oct. 8, 2003

I was wondering if anyone can help me with a couple questions. 1. Is it possible to turn off the email interface to mailman? We want to make them use the web interface only, if that is possible. 2. How does mailman store stateful information like auth credentials and passwords? 3. Can we send the archives to a remote machine without using NFS. Thanks in advance, Mike

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Terri Oda's List Member Manual now available
by Barry Warsaw Oct. 7, 2003

Oct. 7, 2003

Terri Oda has written a nice manual for Mailman list members, and I've finally pushed it out to the web site (and mirrors). It's available both on-line and in PDF format. You can access the manual at: http://www.list.org/users.html http://mailman.sf.net/users.html http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/users.html (As usual, the GNU mirror has a delay and is not yet up-to-date.) Thanks Terri! -Barry

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Strange behaviour
by mss＠mawhrin.net Oct. 7, 2003

Oct. 7, 2003

One of the Russian speaking users reported that the welcome message he received, is badly formatted. The subscribeack.txt file contains: <some text in russian> <next line in russian> In the resulting message it looks like <some text in russian><next line in> <russian> So it reformats the text, and does not put a space where necessary. The reported behaviour is for mailman 2.1.2. I wonder whether this was already reported? -- Misha

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Using pipermail on its own
by Mauro Cicognini Oct. 7, 2003

Oct. 7, 2003

Hi everyone, I know someone must have asked this already but I can't find anything on the subject. Nowadays (as AMK clearly says on his page) pipermail only lives within Mailman. Is it possible, however, to use it by itself? I.e. I'd have to provide a nicer interface to a set of messages which are actually automatically retrieved by a script, and I'd like to avoid reinventing the wheel if at all possible. Since the script is in Python (as most of the development we do here is) I'd rather integrate a Python module than resort to an external archiver like MHonArc, however nice that is. Thanks in advance for any help. Mauro Cicognini

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Digested articles probleme
by Logarno Oct. 3, 2003

Oct. 3, 2003

Hi, When I post digested article from gnus on a mailman mailing list I get this error in : ---[/var/spool/mailman/logs/error]--- Oct 03 22:16:06 2003 (30348) Uncaught runner exception: 'list' object has no attribute 'splitlines' Oct 03 22:16:06 2003 (30348) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/obj/i386/ports/mailman-2.1.1/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop File "/usr/obj/i386/ports/mailman-2.1.1/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile File "/usr/obj/i386/ports/mailman-2.1.1/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose File "/usr/obj/i386/ports/mailman-2.1.1/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline File "/usr/obj/i386/ports/mailman-2.1.1/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Approve.py", line 56, in process AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'splitlines' Oct 03 22:16:06 2003 (30348) SHUNTING: 1065212165.167116+096f8fb0244c4a14736d6ca8d18caab933908b1d ---[/var/log/mailog]--- dytype=8BITMIME, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=hermes.toto.fr [42.42.42.42] Oct 3 22:48:21 parmesan sm-mta[31529]: h93KmHIW017713: to="|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test", ctladdr=<test(a)test.fr> (1/0), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=prog, pri=36487, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ... And nothing else after as nothing come back to suscribers... Normal article (non digested) works fine. I use python-2.2.1p1 and mailman-2.1.1 (using ports) on OpenBSD 3.3 with Sendmail. Thanks a lot ! -- Arnaud Desmons

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