Mailman 3 October 2003 - Mailman-Developers

Zest as an Archiver
by Iain Bapty Oct. 15, 2003

Oct. 15, 2003

Hey, I'm a 3rd year Computer Science student at UMIST in Manchester, UK just starting my 3rd year project. My project is to create a new archiver component for Mailman based on Zest. I'm posting this message to both User and Developer lists as I would appreciate feedback from as many people as possible (for my requirements capture stage). I have a number of questions * What problems exist with the Pipermail Archiver? * What features would you like to see in a new Archiver? * Would you be willing for me to email you questions in the future (not on the groups)? Any replies are very much appreciated. Thanks a lot Iain Bapty

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Sending queued messages after a system down
by Dan Ohnesorg Oct. 15, 2003

Oct. 15, 2003

My user has noticed, that Mailman 2.1 sends messages in wrong order, when the messages are sent from queue. My host was down for some time, we have only accepted new messages into mailman queue, mailman process was not running. After starting the mailman with mailmanctl -s start, the newest messages are sent first, the oldiest last. This is not big problem, but can be probably easy fixed. cheers dan

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Log file rollovers
by Nadim Shaikli Oct. 15, 2003

Oct. 15, 2003

I've noticed some weird happenings with Mailman (v-2.1.2). As expected on the first of each month all the log files get rolled over (so vette becomes vette.1 and bounce becomes bounce.1, etc). Every so often I see files that are created but are not used. For instance, I'm looking at my log directory and can see, -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 0 Oct 1 06:27 post -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 4819198 Oct 9 08:57 post.1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 632841 Sep 10 07:59 post.2.gz all the current posts are still making it to 'post.1' for some reason and not simply 'post'. Mind you in September they were making it to the normal 'post' file. Is this a known problem and is there a work-around or a means to fix this sans restarts. I did notice this happening on other files as well (subscribe, error, etc) - the problem resolves itself if you restart mailman. Regards, - Nadim __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Mailman Integration
by Rabbi Simcha Backman Oct. 13, 2003

Oct. 13, 2003

Hi there, I'm searching for an experienced programmer who is familiar with mailman and its code and can integrate it entirely into our site. I'm willing to hire either on an hourly basis or for the job. Please contact me directly at: sbackman(a)askmoses.com Thanks Simcha Backman

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umlaut-problem?
by Hans Rauch Oct. 13, 2003

Oct. 13, 2003

Hi, you told us to send the code snipet. Here iti is: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 192, in main show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 491, in show_results form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 799, in membership_options all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) ________________________________________________________________________ Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.1.3 (#1, May 5 2002, 12:40:43) [GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (SuSE)] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform linux2 ________________________________________________________________________ Environment variables: Variable Value DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/www/doc SERVER_ADDR 192.168.4.200 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip,deflate,compress;q=0.9 SERVER_PORT 80 PATH_TRANSLATED /home/www/doc/medien-givb/members REMOTE_ADDR 80.128.228.79 SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2 UNIQUE_ID P4pEIsCoBMgAAAIOCIg HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE de,en;q=0.5 REMOTE_PORT 32986 SERVER_NAME komm.bildung.hessen.de HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/medien-givb/members QUERY_STRING SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 HTTP_HOST mailman.bildung.hessen.de REQUEST_METHOD GET SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.26 Server at komm.bildung.hessen.de Port 80 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin SERVER_ADMIN h.rauch(a)help.hessen.de GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman PATH_INFO /medien-givb/members HTTP_COOKIE test+admin=28020000006929438a3f732800000035396334333234633134353661373335326232386161656661653131333135666437396432653934; medien-givb+admin=28020000006920448a3f732800000034373262383065353230326261363035373163306636353666346635636333376438323434643561 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 HTTP_REFERER http://mailman.bildung.hessen.de/mailman/admin/medien-givb Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 192, in main show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 491, in show_results form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 799, in membership_options all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) ________________________________________________________________________ Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.1.3 (#1, May 5 2002, 12:40:43) [GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (SuSE)] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform linux2 ________________________________________________________________________ Environment variables: Variable Value DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/www/doc SERVER_ADDR 192.168.4.200 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip,deflate,compress;q=0.9 SERVER_PORT 80 PATH_TRANSLATED /home/www/doc/medien-givb/members REMOTE_ADDR 80.128.228.79 SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2 UNIQUE_ID P4pEIsCoBMgAAAIOCIg HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE de,en;q=0.5 REMOTE_PORT 32986 SERVER_NAME komm.bildung.hessen.de HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/medien-givb/members QUERY_STRING SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 HTTP_HOST mailman.bildung.hessen.de REQUEST_METHOD GET SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.26 Server at komm.bildung.hessen.de Port 80 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin SERVER_ADMIN h.rauch(a)help.hessen.de GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman PATH_INFO /medien-givb/members HTTP_COOKIE test+admin=28020000006929438a3f732800000035396334333234633134353661373335326232386161656661653131333135666437396432653934; medien-givb+admin=28020000006920448a3f732800000034373262383065353230326261363035373163306636353666346635636333376438323434643561 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 HTTP_REFERER http://mailman.bildung.hessen.de/mailman/admin/medien-givb -- ----------------------------------- Hessisches Landesinstitut für Pädagogik (HeLP) Hans Rauch Stuttgarter Straße 18-24, 60329 Frankfurt/M Fon 069 / 389 89 223 Fax 069 / 389 89 222 h.rauch(a)help.hessen.de -----------------------------------

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moderator bit
by ljacobs Oct. 13, 2003

Oct. 13, 2003

I am trying to use Mailman 2.1.3 on a FreeBSD 4.8 system, python 2.2.2. However, with any lists I create the moderator bit is off be default. I can change the bit to "moderator on" but even after doing that, the membership page changes back to "moderator off". Is this a feature or some bug? Thanks. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMessaging system at mandala-designs.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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question about passwords.
by Mike Lucas Oct. 10, 2003

Oct. 10, 2003

If I make a bunch of lists using the newlist script with the -q option to not notify the owner. Is there a way to after the fact send the password to the owner? The reason i am asking is we are migrating from Lsoft to mailman and are moving all our lists over to mailman. In the process we would like to add the lists and then use the config_list script to add all the settings of each list over with all the owners/moderators. After we have it all moved over to the new system we then want to have an email sent to all the owners/moderators that tells them thier password for administrating thier list. The thing is that the newlist script makes the list with 1 owner. Then we use the Config_list to add all the other owners and moderators. I do not think that when i use the config_list script it will send an email to all the owners/moderators with a password to use. Is there a way to do this i am not seeing? any info would be great. Thanks, Mike

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mailman and SSL.
by Mike Lucas Oct. 10, 2003

Oct. 10, 2003

has anyone made Mailman's web interface use SSL? Any info about how you did it would be great. thanks, Mike

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CVS re-organization for MM 2.2
by Barry Warsaw Oct. 10, 2003

Oct. 10, 2003

I'm starting to work on straight up MM 2.2 features, which means that the head and the -maint branch are going to start diverging. This will be especially painful for the i18n'ers because I think it'll start to be nearly impossible to backport .po file changes. I've sent a separate message to mailman-i18n outline my hope that we can join the Translation Project [1] For these and other reasons, I'm probably going to do some reorganization of the CVS repository (probably forgoing the revision history -- ah Subversion :). One of the planned changes is to move some of the top level directories out of into a separate CVS module. I'm pretty sure I want to move admin, but there may be others. I'm probably also going to move the READMEs into doc. -Barry

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Manually marking something as bouncing?
by Terri Oda Oct. 10, 2003

Oct. 10, 2003

I know, I should probably be able to find this, but for some reason it's eluding me... Is there some way in which people can manually be marked as bouncing so that the "are you there?" notices still go out? We get a fair number of uncaught bounces and it'd be handy to be able to do that rather than no-mailing the person. Alternatively, how hard is it to add new bounce forms to mailman? This probably won't help most of my admins, since I'm one of very few with the access to the box that I suspect is necessary, but at least I could add in the ones that we see more frequently. Terri

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