Mailman 3 February 2003 - Mailman-Developers

Fwd: Bounce action notification
by Chuq Von Rospach Feb. 27, 2003

Feb. 27, 2003

this is a bug in the bounce processing for Mailman 2.1 Begin forwarded message: > From: mailman(a)plaidworks.com > Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:58:07 AM US/Pacific > To: sharks-owner(a)plaidworks.com > Subject: Bounce action notification > > This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: > > List: sharks > Member: xxxx(a)hotmail.com > Action: Subscription disabled. > Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. > > > > The triggering bounce notice is attached below. > > Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at > mailman(a)plaidworks.com. > > From: postmaster(a)mail.hotmail.com > Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:50:14 AM US/Pacific > To: sharks-bounces+xxxx=hotmail.com(a)plaidworks.com > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Delay) > > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > > THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. > > YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. > > Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. > > xxxx(a)hotmail.com > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns;mc10-s16.bay6.hotmail.com > Received-From-MTA: dns;mc10-f40.bay6.hotmail.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:49:41 -0800 > > Original-Recipient: > Final-Recipient: rfc822;xxxx(a)hotmail.com > Action: delayed > Status: 4.4.7 > Will-Retry-Until: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:49:41 -0800 -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui(a)plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier.

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experienced newbie here...
by dancerboy Feb. 27, 2003

Feb. 27, 2003

Hello all! I've just been contracted to modify a specific mailman installation so that email addresses cannot be harvested by spammers. Rather than go and do the mods completely on my own, I decided it would make more sense to coordinate my efforts with the larger open-source developer community. About me: I've been writing code since I was 8 years old. I've done a *lot* of development in Perl; significant amounts in C++, Java, JavaScript, and PHP; and smaller amounts in quite a few other languages (Pascal, DCL, assembler, VB, etc.). I pick up computer languages *very* quickly, so I don't think I'll have any trouble learning enough Python to get this job done. However, I'm entirely new to this open-source collaboration thing -- I have only the vaguest idea of how to use CVS, for example -- so I hope someone can point me to the information I'll need so as not to make a complete ass of myself :) I noticed in the TODO list there was one item about creating a form interface to discourage email harvesting. Is there a more detailed spec for this project available? or has it not been nailed down any more than what's listed on the TODO page? I'm not sure if this will satisfy my client's requirements, but it seems to be a good place to start. -jason

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[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eating whitespaces in subject
by Tokio Kikuchi Feb. 27, 2003

Feb. 27, 2003

I am Cc-ing this reply to mailman-developers because of update in pointers. Try these patch. <prefix>/pythonlib/email/Header.py patch. Description; https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=687338&group_id=25568&atid… Latest patch; https://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=25568&atid=384680&fil… Additionally, this patch for <srcdir>/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py for better prefixing subject (use number or not). Description; https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=601117&group_id=103&atid=3… Latest patch for Mailman-2.1.1; https://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=103&atid=300103&file_… You should also check if your MUA is compliant to RFC-2822/2047. (Hmm, you are using Mutt/1.5.3i ...) Tokio Mads Martin Joergensen wrote: > Hey together, > > I found a weird bug in mailman-2.1.1. It seems mailman is removing > whitespaces from the subject line if the subject contains 8-bit > characters like æ ä or similar. > > Just try sending a mail to a testlist running mailman-2.1.1 with the > subject "Emne tekst på email til flug listerne" and reply a couple of > times. It's eating spaces randomly. > > Subjects like "ä ë ü and subject whitespaces" will also demonstrate it. >

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[Mailman-Developers] Feature request: Display "Your name" in Subscriber list
by Roger C. Pao Feb. 26, 2003

Feb. 26, 2003

I think it would be useful to be able to display the optional "Your name" in the Subscriber list together with the e-mail address. My list members use Traditional Chinese names which they know. The corresponding e-mail addresses, however, are a mystery to most members (including myself). Make it an option for those list managers who do not wish it displayed. The subscriber can always hide himself from the list, so it won't affect them either way. rp03

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Hold-for-approval in MM 2.1
by Daniel Buchmann Feb. 25, 2003

Feb. 25, 2003

Is there a way of specifying a list of addresses that is ALWAYS able to post to a list without their post being held for approval? How? Where? Adding email addresses to the "accept_these_nonmembers" is not enough, because other filters take precedence... Is there a way of rearranging filter appliance? How? Where? (Wasn't there a pipeline somewhere..? ;) -Daniel, tired of discarding spam and approving messages sent from addresses listed in accept_these_nonmembers... ;)

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another traceback
by Chuq Von Rospach Feb. 24, 2003

Feb. 24, 2003

going through my error log, I see another, unrelated traceback. I have no idea what caused this one yet..... Feb 19 23:35:28 2003 (24496) Uncaught runner exception: please run connect() first Feb 19 23:35:28 2003 (24496) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 61, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 149, in process conn.quit() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 79, in quit self.__conn.quit() File "/BinaryCache/python/python-3.root~193/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py", line 671, in quit self.docmd("quit") File "/BinaryCache/python/python-3.root~193/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py", line 352, in docmd self.putcmd(cmd,args) File "/BinaryCache/python/python-3.root~193/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py", line 308, in putcmd self.send(str) File "/BinaryCache/python/python-3.root~193/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py", line 300, in send raise SMTPServerDisconnected('please run connect() first') SMTPServerDisconnected: please run connect() first -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui(a)plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ No! No! Dead girl, OFF the table! -- Shrek

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2.1 traceback.
by Chuq Von Rospach Feb. 24, 2003

Feb. 24, 2003

Every so often I get a report of a posting sent to one of my lists that dissappears. I got two yesterday. Thanks to some detective work, I found one -- it got shunted because of a traceback: Feb 19 23:44:31 2003 (24496) Uncaught runner exception: sequence expected, NoneT ype found Feb 19 23:44:31 2003 (24496) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 61, in _dispos e self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 139, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 277, in verpdel iver d = {'bounces': bmailbox, TypeError: sequence expected, NoneType found This is someone that's able to post normally, so it's not a messed up mailer or anything. Anyone else seeing this? -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui(a)plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ No! No! Dead girl, OFF the table! -- Shrek

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[patch] INSTALL file contains errors in 2.1.1
by bert hubert Feb. 22, 2003

Feb. 22, 2003

These problems confused me somewhat: --- INSTALL.~ Sat Feb 22 15:17:19 2003 +++ INSTALL Sat Feb 22 15:19:27 2003 @@ -67,6 +67,9 @@ already in use, choose something else unique and see the --with-groupname below. + Make sure the 'mailman' user is in group 'mailman'! Otherwise + permission problems will ensue. + - Create an installation directory (called $prefix in the documentation that follows). All of the Mailman files will be installed under $prefix. Run "configure --help" for ways to @@ -337,6 +340,17 @@ % su - mailman % crontab crontab.in + - Create a "site-wide" mailing list. This is the one that + password reminders will appear to come from. Usually this + should be the "mailman" mailing list, but if you need to change + this, be sure to change the MAILMAN_SITE_LIST variable in + mm_cfg.py (see below). + + % bin/newlist mailman + + Follow the prompts, and see the README file for more + information. + - Start the Mailman qrunner daemon, by executing the following from the $prefix directory: @@ -388,18 +402,8 @@ add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) - - Create a "site-wide" mailing list. This is the one that - password reminders will appear to come from. Usually this - should be the "mailman" mailing list, but if you need to change - this, be sure to change the MAILMAN_SITE_LIST variable in - mm_cfg.py (see below). - - % bin/newlist mailman - - Follow the prompts, and see the README file for more - information. - - You should then subscribe yourself to the mailman list. + - You should then subscribe yourself to the mailman list created above. 5. Customize Mailman -- http://www.PowerDNS.com Open source, database driven DNS Software http://lartc.org Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO http://netherlabs.nl Consulting

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Scrubber decode bug
by Simon Coggins Feb. 22, 2003

Feb. 22, 2003

Hi, I've submitted a bug #691039 about a problem with a decode error in base64 and Scrubber.py. I've also supplied a patch #691055 that i think will fix the problem. Can someone tell me if the patch looks sane enough.. or make a new patch for it :) -- Simon Coggins (SAGE-AU Member) Email: simon(a)uow.edu.au Network and System Management Officer Phone: +61-2-4221-3775 Information Technology Systems (ITS) Mobile: 0408 115861 University of Wollongong, 2522, Australia Fax: +61-2-4229-1985

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EFF Mailing List Query
by barry＠python.org Feb. 22, 2003

Feb. 22, 2003

FYI, >From the latest EFF mailer... -Barry -------------------- snip snip -------------------- * Mailing List Headaches? Contact us. EFF believes that delivery of legitimate e-mail needs to be carefully protected as a fundamental part of any solution to the spam problem. Unfortunately, we've lately learned that more and more opt-in mailing lists are being mislabeled as spam and wrongly blocked. EFF is looking for people who administer opt-in e-mail mailing lists and have had difficulty because their messages have been mislabeled as spam, causing delivery to fail. Our hope is to connect the folks facing this problem so that they can work together to find a global solution that both respects the Internet as a place of free speech (and e-mail as a vital organizing tool) while protecting Internet users and sysadmins from the problems that *real* spam causes. Contact mailinglistsheadaches(a)eff.org.

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