Mailman 3 February 2005 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Users] complete personalisation
by Mark Sapiro 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

Stefan Hofmeir wrote: > >each subscriber of a newsletter list should see his email address in >the "to" field, so I have set "personalize: complete >personalisation". > >But why is every newsletter sent in "cc" to the list address? >To: Subscriber123 <subscriber123(a)provider.tld> >CC: mailmanlist <mailmanlist(a)serveraddress.tld> The Cc is added so the recipient can reply to the list with the reply-all feature of his/her MUA. I gather from your other post that your list is also anonymous and in this case the Cc is redundant as the list posting address is already in From and Reply-To: >How can I delete the "cc" field? I have submitted a patch for this at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1117618&group_id=1… This patch will supress adding the Cc if the list is anonymous. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Hacking pipermail...
by Brad Knowles 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

Folks, I've just had to rebuild an archive for a list, thus causing pipermail to regenerate message numbers and breaking all the links that previously used to work. I'd like to try to figure out a way to avoid that problem. Looking at pipermail.py in processUnixMailbox, around lines 565-568, the critical code appears to be: msgid = m.get('message-id', 'n/a') self.message(_('#%(counter)05d %(msgid)s')) a = self._makeArticle(m, self.sequence) self.sequence += 1 Am I missing something here? Could we simply rip out the references to "self.sequence" and instead drop in a call to "md5(m)"? Of course, we'd also have to adjust the initialization of "sequence" to be the empty string and make sure that all other references to it are as a string instead of a number, but I don't think that would be too hard. Certainly, it seems that this would be an easy way to avoid having to break all existing links because the sequence number arbitrarily changed when the archive was regenerated. Or does Python not have an internal implementation of MD5, or even a shim to a library function that does MD5? -- Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.

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Patch 1107169: Re-use member_moderation_notice for generic_nonmember_action
by Brad Knowles 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

Folks, I asked a couple of questions about this a while back, and got a bit of help that allowed me to develop a patch, which I've now had on SourceForge for a while (see <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1107169&group_id=1…>). However, I haven't heard any further commentary on this. I'm not a programmer in any language, especially Python, but I hope that I've been able to at least hack something together without causing too much collateral damage. Feedback would be appreciated. Tokio -- can I get you to take a look at this and consider it for inclusion in your next beta roll-up for 2.1.6? This would solve some problems for us on the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists, and without at least some commentary from you or Barry, I'm hesitant to just go ahead and apply this to the mailing list server for python.org. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.

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Re: [Pydotorg] Volunteer sought to code Mailman/Plesk integration script for use by African organizations
by Tobias Eigen 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Hi Skip, Thanks for the reply. To tell you the truth, I looked at the volunteer opportunities wiki and it took me just a little bit too much effort to figure out at the brief moment I took to look at it so I gave it up! Also had the bad luck of writing a lengthy email to the mailman-developers list which I then lost through a glitch in my mac email client. Proof, really, that I am completely useless with email and should never be allowed to administrate a mailman server. <grin> In the meanwhile, since I've not managed to get a volunteer to help out with this particular problem, I have decided to go ahead and pay a Rackspace (our hosting provider) technician to take care of it for me. When I have it I'll share the code. I'll keep you all posted. Cheers, Tobias -- Tobias Eigen Executive Director Kabissa - Space for Change in Africa http://www.kabissa.org * Kabissa's vision is for a socially, economically, politically, and environmentally vibrant Africa, supported by a strong network of effective civil society organizations. * On Jan 29, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Tobias> I'll post my problem in more detail on the mailman-dev > list and > Tobias> perhaps someone will come forward. > > Also, check out the new (and so far empty) VolunteerOpportunities wiki > page: > > http://www.python.org/moin/VolunteerOpportunities > > There's a link from the existing jobs page to try and increase > visibility. > > Skip >

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Re: [Mailman-checkins] mailman/templates/de admlogin.html, 1.2, 1.2.2.1 bounce.txt, 1.3, 1.3.2.1 verify.txt, 1.2.2.2, 1.2.2.3
by Martin Mewes 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Hi Peer, pheinlein(a)users.sourceforge.net wrote : > Modified Files: > Tag: Release_2_1-maint > admlogin.html bounce.txt verify.txt There is a inconsistency in bounce.txt and verify.txt in the german translation. > Index: bounce.txt [...] > - Abonnent: %(addr)s > + Mitglied: %(addr)s > Index: verify.txt [...] > -Abonnenmentsbest�tigung f�r die Mailing-Liste %(listname)s > +Abonnenmentsbestätigung für die Mailing-Liste %(listname)s If you say "Mitglied" in first and "Abonnement" in the second place, wouldn't it be better to say "Mitgliedsbestätigung" in the second place? Sorry if not all english readers can follow this ;-) bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- I am on holiday. Your e-mail has been deleted.

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Status of www.list.org?
by Mark Sapiro 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Does anyone know the status of www.list.org? I have been unable to get a ping response or a response from port 80 for a day or two now? -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Possible error in Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py
by Thien Vu 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

I think I found a bug in mailman. If you get an email confirmation for a pending request and you go to the web page. If you hit 'cancel' it will to to Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py will call subscription_cancel : def subscription_cancel(mlist, doc, cookie): # Discard this cookie userdesc = mlist.pend_confirm(cookie)[1] lang = userdesc.language i18n.set_language(lang) doc.set_language(lang) doc.AddItem(_('You have canceled your subscription request.')) The problem is in mlist.pend_confirm: def pend_confirm(self, cookie, expunge=True): """Return data for cookie, or None if not found. If optional expunge is True (the default), the record is also removed from the database. """ db = self.__load() # If we're not expunging, the database is read-only. if not expunge: return db.get(cookie) # Since we're going to modify the database, we must make sure the list # is locked, since it's the list lock that protects pending.pck. assert self.Locked() content = db.get(cookie, _missing) if content is _missing: return None # Do the expunge del db[cookie] del db['evictions'][cookie] self.__save(db) return content There is an assert self.Locked() which will always fail because we've never locked the list. The question is what's the correct thing to do here? It seems the safe thing to do is the wrap a lock the call to pend_confirm in subscription_cancel, but is pending.pck even used anymore? If not do we still need the lock? It seems like we would because we're going to be updating whereever the db is... Just asking because I'm not very familiar with this part of the code. Thien

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Mailman Qrunner Sleep Time Option
by Kory Wheatley 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

If I change the configuration variable in Mailman: qrunner_sleep_time = 1 to qrunner_sleep_time = 60 Will this slow the delivery of Mailman's Queue to outgoing recipients. I'm looking for a way to slow the number of emails or connections to Postfix, because of rate control issues. I've already slowed the performance of Postfix I think. -- Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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[OT] mailman-devel mbox/maildir - download
by Martin Mewes 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

Hi folks, I am new to this list and need to start with a a one time ever off-topic post to this list. As mailman-devel does not provide the full mbox-archive for download I kindly ask if someone can provide me with a tar of the posts up to one year back in time from now. This would make things easier for me to read and understand the background here instead of browsing the searchable archive online. Sorry for any inconvinience if any ... bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- Hi. I'm thinking about what you've just sent me. Please wait by your PC for my response.

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MAX_RESTARTS
by Ian Eiloart 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

Hi, mailmanctl has a mechanism for restarting failed qrunners. Very handy, but I just got bit by MAX_RESTARTS. A resource problem on our mail server meant that the virgin runner was failing every half hour or so - so after a few hours Mailman stopped sending notifications of various things. What is the purpose of MAX_RESTARTS? I can see that we might want to stop if a runner is restarted ten times a minute, but not ten times a day, surely? Could we get an mm_cfg setting to control this please? That would give an easy workaround. More principled, perhaps, would be to store not the number of restarts, but the time of the last restart. If this restart is occuring less than one minute after the last, AND MAX_RESTARTS has been exceeded..... or something.... then we stop. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS

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