Mailman 3 March 2012 - Mailman-Developers

Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code
by Shayan Md 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

Hi, I am Shayan, I am doing my masters from IISc Bangalore. I want to take part in GSoC from mailman organization. I have fairly good experience in python. I worked on whoosh library for my own project. I have experience with django also. I am planning to work on integrating systers search code into mailman. I believe for whole summer this task alone is very small. I'll include couple of more tasks in the proposal. I went through search code. Code looks pretty standard. As far I understood mailman.Searcher.IndexSchema has whoosh schema mailman.Seracher.Indexer contains indexing functions which are later used in genindex.py mailman.Seracher.Mailocate has search function for indexed content generated by genindex.py mailman.bin.genindex.main() is the main function which indexes the archives I am still trying to figure out how mailman client library interacts with mailman server. I know how to use client library but I couldn't understand internal working of mailman server. I have been reading the code but I wasn't able understand much. It would be awesome if you can point me to any documentation to understand this. Some api documentation or anything to understand code. Thanks Shayan.

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I18n help needed for Mailman 2.1.15 release.
by Mark Sapiro 25 Mar '12

25 Mar '12

Now that Mailman 3 is in beta, I would like to spend more time working on it. To that end, I am planning to release Mailman 2.1.15 soon. This release fixes quite a few bugs and adds some needed new features. See the NEWS file at <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/NEWS> for details. This release contains several new message strings and a template modification, none of which have been translated. So, if you are a language champion or just an interested user or anything between, I need your help. There is a new feature to request a password reminder from the private archive login page. This necessitated an addition to templates/<language>/private.html. I have added the new information to all the templates, but it is in English. If you can help translate this into your language, get the private.html template from your language directory at <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/files/head:/templat…>, and send me a translated template. Also, all the message catalogs have been merged from the new mailman.pot and there are fuzzy translations and untranslated strings as a result. If you can help with fixing these, get the current LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po file from your language directory at <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/files/head:/message…> and send me an updated version. If you can help with this, please do it before the end of April. If you want to help but aren't sure what to do, let me know and I'll try to help you. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Need guidance to start contributing to Mailman
by Sidharth Bansal 25 Mar '12

25 Mar '12

Hello Mailman Developers, Sorry in advance if this is not the right place for my query. I wanted to start contributing to Mailman-Development, and wanted a little head start for that. I would love to get any sort of guidance in this respect. I am a second year IT student with knowledge of c, c++, and trying my hands on web development. Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1
by Jeff Breidenbach 25 Mar '12

25 Mar '12

Congratulations! I was able to get Postorius running by following the five minute quick start guide. I didn't see archiving settings in the user interface, how do I set that up? Cheers, Jeff

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] python 3
by Barry Warsaw 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

On Mar 24, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry(a)list.org> wrote: >> Not all of that will be needed. For example, I do want to eventually get rid >> of zc.buildout, zope.testing, and zope.testrunner, so some of those >> dependencies will go away as a result of that. > >But presumably new dependencies will be added to support those >functions, and while Python 3 support is an important desideratum, >for replacements, I don't think that it's a good idea to let it override >quality in the implementation of dependencies. Agreed. However, In these cases, there are already compelling technical reasons to find replacements. -Barry

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python 3
by Andrea Crotti 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

Someone told me that I should poke Barry about Python3 support, so here I am ;) It's clearly something that can be done really soon, but I think it's worth to start thinking about it. In particular I noticed that lazr.config have been untouched since 2009, which makes me think that is less likely that they will be ported to Python 3. Is it a valid assumption or there is a porting plan? Are there any other blocking factors in general from libraries or other issues??

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GSoC 2012
by vikash agrawal 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

Hi Everyone, I am Vikash and very much interested in contributing to mailman and being a GSoC student this year. So far, I have successfully installed mailman in my system. I do have skills in Python 2.7 but as I am very new to mailman thus I am looking for something small to hack and doable in this summer. Also, the idea page doesnot mention the skills required for the project so its somewhat difficult for me to choose one. As a result I would like you to guide me over the same . I am willing to learn a lot this summer :-) Regards Vikash Agrawal -- sent via HTC Sensation

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] bugs on launchpad
by C Nulk 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

On 3/22/2012 5:48 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry(a)list.org> wrote: > >> If we add something like $archive_url to the decoration interpolation >> dictionary, what happens when we have multiple archivers that support >> permalink() enabled? Do we chose one at random (these are unordered)? > -1 I agree so -2. I thinking is if you list administrator/owner has not defined an order, make it simple and impose a known order in that case - alphabetize/sort the order and pick the first one. > >> Do we add a configuration variable to select a "primary" archiver for this? > +1 +2 This would allow the list administrator/owner to define and pick the primary archiver. For any other archivers, people can go to the Archived-At header(s). > > If there's *no* archiver configuration variable, we don't know where to > point to anyway for Gmane-like archivers (yes, I know, catering to Gmane > will give Brad hives, but some people like Gmane). The local archive, if it > exists, may seem TOOWTDI, but it might not be the preferred one even if > it's the only one configured in Mailman (although that seems a lot less > likely than the case where somebody just grandfathers an existing Gmane > subscription as the archive URL of choice). > >> Do we allow something like $archive_url.prototype as an interpolation >> variable to select e.g. the 'prototype' archiver? > -1 > > Too complex. If people want alternative archives, they can go to > the list FAQ or the Archived-At headers. If we go this way, we'd > better have a *really* good comment and a pre-existing entry in > the FAQ to save Mark some time. :-) I agree with Stephen. Too complex and can be confusing without it being well documented with a number of examples.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] bugs on launchpad
by Stephen J. Turnbull 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

But how does the option get into your web UI? If you have to put it in there by editing mm_config, I don't see the gain. Remember, many archivers already have the rather convenient (to non-shell-on-Mailman-host list owners and even ordinary users) UI of simply subscribing the archiver to the list. I would say that one way to implement this would be as a role in the user database. Instead of subscribing an archiver as "member", subscribe it with the "archivist" role. Gmane would probably be willing to do this, for example, if the subscription method were as simple as subscribing an ordinary member. I suppose the same goes for mail-archive.com. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM, andrea crotti <andrea.crotti.0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My idea as a user would be to be able to select from my > web configuration page an option: > > send_public_url_in_mail_footers: [ > disabled, > gmane_url, > mailmanweb_url > ] > > And maybe it would be cool (if possible I have no idea) to add a mail > command that when I send > > subject: public $mailing_list $id > > I get back an email with this url. Because maybe from one mailing list > I'm normally not interested in the url and I also want it in some cases. > > Not sure I anyone else in the world would like this feature though :D > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/stephen%40xemacs.… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] bugs on launchpad
by andrea crotti 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

My idea as a user would be to be able to select from my web configuration page an option: send_public_url_in_mail_footers: [ disabled, gmane_url, mailmanweb_url ] And maybe it would be cool (if possible I have no idea) to add a mail command that when I send subject: public $mailing_list $id I get back an email with this url. Because maybe from one mailing list I'm normally not interested in the url and I also want it in some cases. Not sure I anyone else in the world would like this feature though :D

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