Mailman 3 October 2016 - Mailman-Developers

before next release: disable backscatter in default installation
by Jo Rhett Nov. 7, 2022

Nov. 7, 2022

Hi. There's a fairly simple problem here that needs to be addressed. And it's mostly a documentation/install problem. I'm hoping we can get this resolved before the next release. PROBLEM: Mailman comes out of the box ready to backscatter spam people. Yes, it's easy enough to fix. But because it comes stock this way, and is documented to install this way, most people install it to do this. Those of us who work in abuse departments are tired of hearing "well that's how Mailman … [View More]

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Translation
by Simon Hanna Jan. 11, 2017

Jan. 11, 2017

Hi, I just completed setting up the Mailman 3 projects on zanata.org They can be found here: https://translate.zanata.org/project/view/mailman https://translate.zanata.org/project/view/postorius https://translate.zanata.org/project/view/hyperkitty I'm hesitating to ask people to translate because zanata is really slow and I'm afraid of scaring people away from translating mailman in the future :D Anyhow, I'm writing to ask for your opinions. What do you think about zanata? Maybe you can … [View More]

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Docker files for mailman
by Simon Hanna Nov. 18, 2016

Nov. 18, 2016

Hi, I started working on docker files for Mailman. I created three repositories: - https://github.com/simonsmiley/postorius-docker Holds the files needed to create a postorius container - https://github.com/simonsmiley/mailman-docker Holds the files needed to create a core container - https://github.com/simonsmiley/mailman-compose Holds docker-compose files that greatly simply the process of running the containers * The mailman repo currently lacks documentation * Currently no … [View More]

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GNU Mailman Architectural Patterns & Quality Attributes for Research
by Stephen J. Turnbull Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

Hi Michael, Did you ever get an answer to this request? I broke a bunch of ribs on the 14th and have been pretty useless for the last two weeks, but now I have a chance to catch up on correspondence of less than "life or death" importance. Regards Steve Michael Skeen writes: > Hello GNU Mailman Community, > > > I am part of an undergraduate research group focusing on software > architecture patterns and quality attributes at Utah Valley University. We > recently … [View More]analyzed the work published on GNU Mailman in the Architecture of > Open Source Applications <http://aosabook.org/en/index.html> (AOSA) and > referenced it in a paper we presented at the 13th Working IEEE/IFIP > Conference on Software Architecture (WICSA), as attached. As a part of our > continuing research we wish to validate our architectural analysis for GNU > Mailman with the current developers. > > > We would like to know if we are missing any patterns or quality attributes > that may have been included in GNU Mailman, or if there are any we listed > that aren’t used. Any additional comment on these topics you might have > would also, of course, be welcome. > > > We believe we found the following software architectural patterns in this > application: > > > * Pattern Name | Is This Found in the Architecture? (yes / no / don't know) > | Comments (optional)* > > Client Server Layers Master and Commander Pipes and Filters Shared > Repository Simple Repository > > Other? > > > We also identified the following quality attributes: > > > * Attribute Name | Is This Found in the Architecture? | Comments (optional)* > > Scalability Extensibility Performance Portability Reliability > > Other? > > > For your convenience, we have a complete list below of the patterns and > quality attributes we referred to when conducting our research. To clarify, > we are specifically studying architectural patterns, rather than design > patterns such as the GoF patterns. > > > Architectural Patterns Considered > > Quality Attributes Considered > > Active Repository > > Scalability > > Batch > > Usability > > Blackboard > > Extensibility > > Broker > > Performance > > Client Server > > Portability > > Event System > > Flexibility > > Explicit Invocation > > Reliability > > Implicit Invocation > > Maintainability > > Indirection Layer > > Security > > Interceptor > > Testability > > Interpreter > > Capacity > > Layers > > Cost > > Master and Commander > > Legality > > Microkernel > > Modularity > > Model View Controller > > Robustness > > Peer to Peer > > > Pipes and Filters > > > Plugin > > > Presentation Abstraction Control > > > Publish Subscribe > > > Reflection > > > Rule-Based System > > > Shared Repository > > > Simple Repository > > > State Based > > > Virtual Machine > > > > Please respond by October 25th, if possible. > > Thank you for considering our request, and for your continued work on GNU > Mailman. > > > Sincerely, > > > Michael Skeen, with > > Erich Gubler, > > Danielle Skinner, > > Brandon Leishman, > > Neil Harrison, Ph.D. (advisor) > > > Reference: Neil B. Harrison, Erich Gubler, Danielle Skinner, "Software > Architecture Pattern Morphology in Open-Source Systems",WICSA, 2016, 2016 > 13th Working IEEE/IFIP Conference on Software Architecture (WICSA), 2016 > 13th Working IEEE/IFIP Conference on Software Architecture (WICSA) 2016, > pp. 91-98, doi:10.1109/WICSA.2016.8 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > PDF: external: PID4110571 (Morphology).pdf, PDF [fetch] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/turnbull.stephen… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hyperkitty 1.0.3 doesn't have add_user_to_mailman function
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

On 10/30/2016 03:30 PM, Leon wrote: > Thank you. I have followed the > instruction(https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experien… > . urls.py, production.py and settings_local.py have been changed. I > got an ImportError. What did you do that produced this error? If it was in response to a command, exactly what command? And if you have installed in a virtualenv, was the virtualenv active when you gave the command? > Traceback (most recent call last): > … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hyperkitty 1.0.3 doesn't have add_user_to_mailman function
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 30, 2016

Oct. 30, 2016

On 10/27/2016 11:55 AM, Leon wrote: > Latest mailman-bundle, Hyperkitty==1.0.3, python-social-auth==0.2.21. > > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler/blob/master/mailman_web/producti… > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/blob/master/hyperkitty/lib/mailman.py > > Im trying to implement a custom authentication backend by following a > tutorial. In the tutorial, the > version of hyperkitty is actually 1.0.4, and the whole thing works well. > However, it didn't … [View More]

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Hyperkitty 1.0.3 doesn't have add_user_to_mailman function
by Leon Oct. 27, 2016

Oct. 27, 2016

Latest mailman-bundle, Hyperkitty==1.0.3, python-social-auth==0.2.21. https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler/blob/master/mailman_web/producti… https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/blob/master/hyperkitty/lib/mailman.py Im trying to implement a custom authentication backend by following a tutorial. In the tutorial, the version of hyperkitty is actually 1.0.4, and the whole thing works well. However, it didn't work on top of 1.0.3. I can find this function in commit 1755122c https://gitlab.… [View More]

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Request to process merge requests faster
by Simon Hanna Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Hi, I know all core devs are volunteers, and no one is maintaing the Mailman projects full-time, but it's a little frustrating to have your merge request open for a couple of months without any/much reaction to it... I try to keep my merge requests up to date and conflict-free, but having to do this for a couple of months, while there is no clear reason why it's not merged yet, is a little demotivating. In Postorius there have been (and there still are) merge requests by new … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Setting up installation to test own changes
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

On 10/24/2016 07:00 AM, Ana Cutillas wrote: > > we at Systers had a student over summer work on some features and we would > like to put those in a server and do some testing. > > I was thinking of using the mailman bundler and then changing the source > files (she only did changes to postorius). Would that work? Or should we do > it differently? The recommended development setup is at <https://wiki.list.org/DEV/SetupDevEnvironment>. Mailman bundler is not … [View More]

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Issue recording VCR tapes in Postorius.
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 24, 2016

Oct. 24, 2016

I have started a branch to expose the pending domain.alias_domains attribute in Postorius. I haven't yet done anything with tests, but I did the basic modifications and created <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/merge_requests/186>. Of course, this merge failed CI because "create_domain() got an unexpected keyword argument 'alias_domain'". So I need to record a new tape and modify the test. So my problem is I can't record any tapes. My "tox -e record" attempts fail with tracebacks … [View More]

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