Mailman 3 March 2019 - Mailman-Developers

No module named readme_renderer
by NAYAN KHANNA 10 Mar '19

10 Mar '19

If anyone else is also facing this issue since today morning, `No module named readme_renderer`, Please run $pip install readme_renderer There is not much about this issue on the internet. That's why I just posted the solution. Regards, *Nayan Khanna* *Second Year,* *MSc Mathematics + **BE Computer Science* *BITS Pilani* *▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄* *Birla Institute of Technology & Science,* *Pilani* Pilani Campus, Vidhya Vihar, Pilani, Rajasthan - 333 031, INDIA.

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Facing problem in setting up environment
by Dinesh Bhagat 10 Mar '19

10 Mar '19

Hi I am Dinesh. I have been trying to set up environment for cloning mailman repo but the terminal is displaying an error again and again. I looked up on internet for solution and tried all these solutions but nothing worked https://itsfoss.com/dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1/ Please help Thanks Dinesh

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Subject tagging in Mailman 3
by Andrew Hodgson 10 Mar '19

10 Mar '19

Hi, Sorry I can't remember if I asked this before, I have been given feedback about this a few times on the lists I have migrated to Mailman 3. On Mailman 2 when the subject tagging was enabled, replies to the list had the Re: in front of the tagging like so: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Facing problem in setting up environment In Mailman 3 it seems to append the tag first: Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Re: Facing problem in setting up environment I have had some comments that this makes it difficult for screen reader users to identify whether the message is a new message or a reply. Its not just one or two people either, though a lot of the people just don't like change which is one factor. Was this behavior change between versions intentional? Thanks. Andrew.

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Re: {Disarmed} Re: Regarding Sending messages/posts to the list
by NAYAN KHANNA 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

Mark, I just realised the cause behind it giving me a Http404. The reason is it is trying to access http://localhost:8001/3.0/lists/2 where 2 is the List id of 'maillist2(a)example.com' If it sends a request to http://localhost:8001/3.0/lists/maillist2@example.com, then it would work fine. What could be the possible reason behind this? (It sending a request to http://localhost:8001/3.0/lists/<list_id> and not http://localhost:8001/3.0/lists/<LISTNAME>) Regards, *Nayan Khanna* *Second Year,* *MSc Mathematics + **BE Computer Science* *BITS Pilani* *▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄* *Birla Institute of Technology & Science,* *Pilani* Pilani Campus, Vidhya Vihar, Pilani, Rajasthan - 333 031, INDIA. On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 10:35 PM NAYAN KHANNA < f20170636(a)pilani.bits-pilani.ac.in> wrote: > Is maillist2(a)example.com the listname part of the URL > of the HyperKitty page from which you are trying to send. > > Yes it is, See the page in the attachment below. > > > Regards, > > *Nayan Khanna* > *Second Year,* > *MSc Mathematics + **BE Computer Science* > *BITS Pilani* > *▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄**▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄* > > *Birla Institute of Technology & Science,* *Pilani* > > Pilani Campus, Vidhya Vihar, Pilani, Rajasthan - 333 031, INDIA. > > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > >> On 3/9/19 12:06 AM, NAYAN KHANNA wrote: >> > Sorry for the late reply, Mark. >> > I just checked it. >> > `mailman lists` shows maillist2(a)example.com >> > as a component of the output. >> > Also, localhost:8001/3.0/lists/maillist2@example.com/ >> > shows full JSON details about >> > mailllist2(a)example.com. >> > { >> > "display_name": "Maillist2", >> > "fqdn_listname": "maillist2(a)example.com <mailto:maillist2@example.com >> >", >> > "list_id": "maillist2.example.com <http://maillist2.example.com>", >> > "list_name": "maillist2", >> > "mail_host": "example.com <http://example.com>", >> > "member_count": 3, >> > "volume": 1, >> > "description": "NA", >> > "self_link": "http://localhost:8001/3.0/lists/maillist2.example.com", >> > "http_etag": "\"d4966cd892c82a3dbbe663fe41e321ff166a4c5b\"" >> > } >> > >> > But the hyperkitty send button is still showing the KeyError named >> > 'file'. Its traceback being the one I sent before. >> >> >> As I have tried to say a few times and explicitly said at >> < >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/message… >> >, >> KeyError named 'file' is not the issue. >> >> The issue is the part of the traceback leading up to and including (in >> your case) >> >> During handling of the above exception (HTTP Error 404: b'404 Not >> Found'), another exception occurred: >> >> which appears to say that localhost:8001/3.0/lists/some_list_name/ is >> returning a 404. Is maillist2(a)example.com the listname part of the URL >> of the HyperKitty page from which you are trying to send. >> >> -- >> Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >> San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers(a)python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-leave(a)python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/ >> Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >> >> Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >> >

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GSoC Intro and Project
by Aaryan Bhagat 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

I have started contributing in GNU Mailman for quite some time now and a some Introduction is required so. My name is Aaryan Bhagat a 2nd Year Computer Science Undergraduate studying in Indian Institute of Technology Kharagur. github-link---"https://github.com/berserker1" gitlab-link----"https://gitlab.com/berserker1?nav_source=navbar" I will be focusing on the project idea "Add support for bounce processing in Core". I feel comfortable in this area and have undertook some research in this also meanwhile. DISCUSSION FOR THE IDEA---------------------------------- Currently I have read the source code regarding bounce runner and various files. What I have gathered of all the bounce configuration files is this (Summary below if you want to skip) : >File `bounce.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/interfaces` is an interface file which defines various class of bounce functions. >File `bounce.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/model` is a model file for various functions. >File `bounce.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/runners/bounce.py` runs the `bounce runner` info read about the runners in the docs. >File `bounces.rst` in `mailman/src/mailman/app/docs/bounces.rst` shows how a bounce message is generated and send to the original sender , how you can also send the error reasons in a dict and it will all be showed to the sender in an organized way. >File `bounce.rst` in `mailman/src/mailman/model/docs` shows how a bounce event is registered , it stores various info . >File `test_bounces.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/app/tests` tests the `app.bounces` functions. >File `test_bounce.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/model/tests` tests the `bounce model objects` . >File `test_bounce.py` in `mailman/src/mailman/runners/tests` tests the `bounce runners`. SUMMARY------- What I can summarize is the method of detecting bounces, registering events, sending mail bounce message to the sender and all other data gathering events are complete.(Also mentioned in the proposal but I had to go though to understand the code otherwise I could not move on). I have also read the Mailman 2.1.xx method of processing bounce addresses. Important docs I have read ----- Bounces in mailman3 ------------ "https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/model/docs/bounce.html" Bounce Processing of Mailman 2.1( Sub topic here ) ---------- "https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%202.1%20List%20Administrators%20Manual?hi…" Runners in Mailman3 ------------------------ "https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/docs/incoming.…" QUESTIONS Q1--- What should be my implementation of processing bounces? Same as previous Mailman or some new ideas. (I am researching this but also need pointers from other contributors!) Q2--- Some crucial info I missed or overlooked please point out and guide me in the right direction for this. If any imp doc I missed please share the link. I believe implementation on this is not trivial and suitable amount of discussion is required for making anything final. I hope to contribute to this org as long as possible(GSoC or No GSoC). It has really sparked my interest.

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Reason for file in mailman/src/mailman/model?
by Aaryan Bhagat 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

There is some basic problem that has been tinkering me. In the codebase we have a MODELS folder in MAILMAN REPO We are forming classes using implementer from zope.interface although we have created interface already in INTERFACE folder. I read the doc on implementer but not much is given. Any pointers on why we created another file in the MODELS folder Example ----- There is a bounce..py file in MODEL folder using implementer from zope.interface There is bounce,py file in INTERFACE having implemented some interfaces for bounces Why need two different cannot we work with only one?

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Regarding Sending messages/posts to the list
by NAYAN KHANNA 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

I am facing problems in sending messages to a list. I tried using mailman inject but still couldn't succeed in sending a message. I am not able to understand how it works. I could run mailman inject -s and see the correct output but when i tried using the -q option, I havent got success using it after trying multiple options. I was reading the docs at mailman/docs and I wanted to try out the pieces of code given in them. But most of operations in moderator.rst started with a create_list function whose definition I was unable to find and hence i wasn't able to test the actual stuff. Someone, please help me in doing the same. I want to get started with posting messages to a list and try out the functionalities of list settings options and the powers which a moderator, owner etc have. Also, is there an option to send posts to a list in the UI/Admin UI? Thanks in Advance. Regards Nayan Khanna

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Mentored sprints for diverse beginners at PyCon 2019
by Abhilash Raj 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

Hi All, I have signed us up for Mentored Sprints for diverse beginners[1] at PyCon US 2019. It is happening 4th of May 2019 from 2:30pm to 6:30pm in Cleveland Ohio, USA. I am planning to be there for 4 hours to help people get started with contributing to Mailman. If anyone is planning to come for PyCon US and wants to join us for this sprint, the registration for contributors is open till 14th of March. See here[1] for more details about the sprints and how to sign up. Aside from this, I'll also be sprinting on Mailman at regular PyCon Sprints May 6–9 2019 and everyone is welcome to join! [1]: https://us.pycon.org/2019/hatchery/mentoredsprints/ -- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)

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Introduction
by Kanav Gupta 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

Hi, I am Kanav Gupta, a third-year undergraduate at International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad. I would like to contribute to GNU Mailman. I am pretty comfortable with Python and Django and have also worked on various projects involving these. Can you please help me get started and find a project matching my skills to work on. Thanks & Regards, Kanav Gupta

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GSoC 2019
by Saswat Mishra 08 Mar '19

08 Mar '19

Hello Developers , This is Saswat Mishra currently pursuing Sophomore year at I.I.T. Delhi. I have been working with Python since last year. I have recently worked in developing a social networking site for a startup and have prior experience in Django framework and REST api. I have even worked with C , Java , JavaScript , OCaml , MongoDB , MySQL and NodeJS. Apart from this I do basic level ethical hacking and penetration testing. I am even at basic stage in Machine Learning and wish to implement it on HyperKitty for automatic moderation and spam protection in large mailing lists. I am really interested in working under mailman for GSoC '19 as it is closely related to my earlier work and experience and its a great tool specially for large organizations unlike mobile apps like whatsapp. I have installed the mailman and its parts and it is running successfully on my system. I am looking forward to solve bugs which are of higher priority as of now and would like to seek help of the mentors in doing so. Therefore I would be happy to get assigned any of the bugs / issues. My github handle is < https://github.com/saswat-mishra > <https://github.com/nayan2000> and gitlab handle is < https://gitlab.com/saswatmishrabablu <https://gitlab.com/Nayan-Khanna> > Thanking You. Saswat Mishra Sophomore B.Tech. IIT Delhi

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