Happy new year everyone!
I'm starting to prep Python for GSoC 2021, and I wanted to issue the
usual invitation that we'd be happy to have Mailman as a sub-org if
anyone wants to do GSoC this year. (Mailman's been fine as a separate
org, but I have to do the paperwork for Python anyhow so I figured I'd
offer if there's interest but no one wants to cover the admin side of
Also, I have two mailman related ideas!
1. Seamless archive converter for 2.1 -> 3.*
A friend was grousing that there was no "nice" way to retain old archive
urls without keeping a static copy of things, and it got me to thinking
that it would definitely be possible to build something that handled the
old urls and redirected or made them work seamlessly, but we didn't do
it because parsing the old archives basically requires you to scrape
them because otherwise we couldn't guarantee that the urls would be
stable from a re-parsed mbox.
It's boring and finicky web scraping work to associate the old url and
do the right things to make it work seamlessly in hyperkitty, but
probably not too hard, so I was thinking that it might be suitable for a
2. Old mailman "skin" for postorius
Make mailman look like the 2.1 interface for people who really love the
old system. There's a few options that would be different, but the
goal would be to make it pretty much look the same only with a few
options changed, for people who are very change adverse. We had
intended for it to be *possible* to reskin Postorius, but I don't think
too many people have done it, so this would be a test to see how doable
that is and probably fix any underlying issues that make reskinning the
interface hard. Honestly, we could also have a student do a brand new
skin if we had someone who loved UI design, but I suspect replicating
the old interface would be less work, and since this year's GSoC hours
have been cut in half, i'd rather start with something easier.
I've been out of mailman dev for 3 years, so I'm probably not the ideal
mentor, but I'm up for helping on either of those if Mailman as a whole
is interested in doing the GSoC thing this year.
my footer removal software fails on IETF's "last-call" mailing list because it
looks for a line of underscores, whereas that list uses "-- ". That sequence
is "the separator line between the body and the signature of a message",
according to RFC 3676. However, I had never seen it in mailing list footers
My experience with mailing lists is limited, so I ask you. Is that sequence
common enough to try and catch it in a footer removal function?
I asked the list owners, and they answered "We didn't choose these settings
when the list was set up! It was probably just the default for that version of
Mailman." Is that possible?
Happy New Year 2021!
I've configured mailman using sqlite as backend database. but when I run unittests,
e.g. python3 -m nose2 -v mailman.model.test
seems the data is not write to production sqlite database, so which database is used in unittest and how to check data in that db?
I'm with mailman 3 in a custom docker environment. And I have all services running in independent containers, and they all communicate between them.
I'm testing sending emails by telnet to a mailing list. But mailman don't send the mail to the mailing list members.
But if I send the mailing list to xxxx-owners(a)xxxx.xx, all the owners receive the mailing list. Just when sending to the mailing list it doesn't work.
If I access in shell the mailing list mailmanclient, and I get the members, it returns all members.
I was debuging lmtp runner, and I can see that using "owners" it goes to queue "in", and Switchboard unqueue receives the message. But without "owners", it goes to "in" queue but unqueue method is not called.
How can I debug why the mailing list is never sent to members?
Another thing that is happening, is in Hyperkitty, the mailing list never shows as active. And it haves 0 participants and 0 discussions. When I'm creating a new thread, I receive the message that email was sent but it never arrives to any recipient. I thought that it requires an actual email to sent to turn the mailing list as active. But at this moment I'm not quite sure about it.
Can you point me in the right direction to understand whats happening?
Is it possible to log to console?
I've changed gunicorn configuration:
Then logs are not written to log files, but I can't see what's being logged.
I'm on a docker environment and having log files it's something that I want to avoid to control disk usage.
And I'm capturing what's shown in console, so it was great if I could log into console.
I wonder if it's possible for users to choose between the new Postorius
interface and the old text-based interface? Some users might prefer the
text-based interface (e.g., for accessibility or just familiarity); others
may prefer the new interface (which does look quite snazzy!). But, I
didn't find any documentation about switching between the two.