Hi y'all
Recently there has been a spate of problems with Mailman/systemd
integration. It appears that (1) the priesthood of systemd is
preparing to deprecate the "simple" and "forking" service types (in
favor of the "notify" type in Mailman's case), and (2) adding "notify"
capability to Mailman is as simple as adding "python-systemd" to
requirements.txt and
from systemd.daemon import booted, notify
if booted(): # check if systemd ran us
notify("READY=1")
notify("STATUS=Processing LMTP and REST API")
in the "right" place.
I have not yet communed with the devil on the details (for example, I
don't know how systemd figures out, or even tries, that the "master"
process is notifying it that the "mailman start" command has
succeeded), but this looks promising (and possibly simple at least
from the users' POV).
It is a Cython wrapper of the underlying libsystemd0, so it might be
preferable that the distro packages (pretty much universally available
for recent distro releases) be used where possible rather than wheels
from PyPI. (Can we do that?)
There are a couple of other notifications, specifically STOPPING,
WATCHDOG, and maybe RELOADING, that we might want to add (as above).
We would need to think carefully about the MariaDB/MySQL issue
documented at
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailma…
Not sure how to deal with that, as MariaDB appears to be lying about
being ready? Although that probably should be dealt with by catching
the "DB not ready" exception and waiting a few seconds, at least in
the case of MySQL-like databases.
WDOT?
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GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization)
Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/
Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan
Hi,
I think I've figured out the merge process, and I've got several
straightforward MRs of my own I'd like to merge, then I'll go on to
reviewing third-party MRs.
For the ones that change user visible behavior, how do we handle the
NEWS? In general, if you include a NEWS item in the MR commit, you're
likely to get a conflict since they're normally added in the same
place. Is that not a consideration for Mailman? Or do we just update
the MR and try again?
Steve
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GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization)
Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/
Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan
