At 12:07 PM -0500 2006-01-03, Barry Warsaw wrote:
I'm actually thinking we need /less/ magic in command line scripts, especially for typical user and admin tasks, because I think increasingly, fewer people have access to the command line (or know what to do with it when they've got it).
The command-line scripts are not for your average joe-user sites.
The command-line scripts are for people like me, Chuq, Skip, and anyone else who operates or may want to operate a larger site, and has not written such a tool for themselves -- at least, not yet.
That is, unless you can build an admin interface that can deal
with hundreds of thousands of queued messages without killing both the server and the client.
I'm keen on the idea of making Mailman access available via xmlrpc or somesuch, and then we can provide scripts that can be run on the client w/o requiring a browser.
I'm not opposed to that, but I'd want to make sure those kinds of
tools could also be run on the server where the list is hosted.
IMAP would probably be an improvement over what we have now, assuming you've got a decent IMAP client -- that's not necessarily a valid assumption. But my experience is that IMAP falls down too (especially depending on the IMAP server implementation), and you need something even scalable when that happens.
True. (Aside: why do all mail clients suck so much? :)
All mail servers suck, too.
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