- Terri Oda <terri@zone12.com>:
Patrick Ben Koetter wrote:
Can we add a search box for options? It might not be necessary on the smaller pages, but the full admin/owner interface looks like it's still going to be sufficiently busy that it could help.
We can. But I, personally, would want to wait for usability test and see if we can do without it simply because it makes the interface more complex.
Well, here's some user data from a recent mailman-users post
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg53494.html
This is a *common* way for people to find things in the current mailman
admin interface, sadly. I've watched people do it and had people tell
me in person that's how they find things too. Most people who maintain
mailing lists do settings changes infrequently, and often under some
time pressure. And they never have time to learn the menu hierarchy
unless they maintain a lot of different types of lists. And often not
even then. There's a lot of options there, and most people nowadays are
used to the google method of finding things. ;)I totally understand not wanting to add too much extra, but... my user
observations thus far imply that this is a feature that would be used
heavily.
Agreed. If it helps we will find a place for it.
The test scenario affects the outcome of the test. We need to standardize the test before we run it. I might be able to get some people from a usability lab we work with help us. Let me check that.
I'm an academic researcher professionally, so I'm well aware of issues
in testing methodologies. But honestly? Don't get caught up in doing
Perfect Science here. Even a quick, dirty, messy user study would give
Believe me. I won't. ;)
us a lot of information that could be useful. The current interface
suffers badly from lack of user testing, and I'd hate for the same to be
true of the new one.
Yes.
If you need more help with user studies, I should be able get some help
from the usability research lab here. I know one of the profs here
expressed interest in mailman usability in the past, and we may be able
to find people willing to work on the problem.
That would be the perfect opportunity. Please ask him if he's still interested.
The question is: How do I get there. I life in Munich, Germany.
p@rick
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