On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 04:58:28PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
Either mailman or majordomo, hard to say. Majordomo had a big installed base, but it's losing grounds quickly (it was far from being the best, but it was the most popular)
For a long time it was the top of the heap among a large variety of really, really, actually crappy mlm's.
I already got a flame for working on Mailman, rather than ezmlm, because of the perceived restrictiveness of the GPL.
You can point those people to the restrictions in qmail (which you more or less need to run ezmlm).
Less. Since postfix and courier both implement sub-addresses, you can use them to manage ezmlm. Since sendmail can be made to do that as well, you can probably make ezmlm work with sendmail these days, too.
This is better then some of the silly things that I've read in the past on Rick's crackmonkey pages. But what it comes down to is 2 things:
- Rick thinks he knows more about programming then djb
- Rick doesn't like the license.
However I haven't seen Rick produce or distribute very much software, and his presentations of his "reasons" for why he belittles djb (rather then, say writing his own, better, MTA) has made me unlikely to take his software/solutions recommendations seriously.
After that, you notice that you have ezmlm and ezmlm-idx maintained by different people than the author (DJB), and the strange absence of license on the ezmlm.org web site (I didn't download it to check further). Of course, qmail itself isn't open source.
I'd *much* rather be working with Barry than DJB, thank you :-)
Agreed, but the Freds who maintain ezmlm-idx are competant and knowledgeable, too. I like the fact that unlike when I was wondering, years ago if it was better to use /etc/aliases instead of majordomo/smartlist/whatever oddball list server, that now there are at least 2 good mlm's out there.
PS: ezmlm isn't crap though, it has some nice features that mailman doesn't quite match yet.
And its faster then oatmeal through an incontinent intestine.
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