Hi Stephen,
Stephen J. Turnbull, 15.03.2007 17:19:
That's why my proposal replaces the From by an author-set Reply-To whenever it is used.
Which is again a non-conforming use of the originator headers. From is *not* Reply-To, it identifies the author of the message. So you've broken Reply-To, it no longers tells where the author wants replies sent as it's supposed to. Now you break From, too! Like this:
Suppose that because I'm traveling, I set my reply-to to careof@somewhere.net. Then my headers will look like:
From: stephen@xemacs.org Sender: steve@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Reply-To: careof@somewhere.net
but what you'll see is
From: careof@somewhere.net Sender: mailman-users-bounces@python.org Reply-To: mailman-users@python.org
That's *wrong*, it confuses both my faithful audience, and the killfiles of those who never want to hear from me again. Furthermore, it identifies me as being "at" an address that is evidently temporary.
Just a short pre-answer to that point, because you got it wrong:
Of course it's wrong. I don't propose that. Sorry, my quoted sentence above was not clear enough, please stick to the proposal I made.
Assuming you chose the option "reply to list" (option 2) according to my proposal, the headers would look like:
From: stephen@xemacs.org Sender: steve@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Reply-To: mailman-users@python.org Cc: careof@somewhere.net (added to existing Cc:, but only if careof@somewhere.net is not a member of mailman-users@python.org)
I don't see how this additional Cc: can be more dangerous, than what Mailman is doing right now. The opposite is true, it fixes the reply-to-all function, because the answer would also go to careof@somewhere.net, what you explicitly requested by your Reply-To.
All my proposal is about, is bringing the reply-to-munging closer to the RFC _and_ usability than it is now.
Reply-to-munging _is_ heavily used in existing Mailman installations. Why not fix it then?
Regards,
Sven
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