On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:32:27PM +0200, Anna Granudd wrote:
I'm not sure I fully understand the intent behind at least one of them so I figured I had to get back to you.
Sure, no probs!
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Adam McGreggor adam-mailman@amyl.org.ukwrote:
What that's missing to me is:
- a password reset option;
Since you need to be logged in to come to this page I think the password reset option might be better suited on the login page since I guess people would rather use it if they forgot their password and if that's the case adding such a field here wouldn't help much.
Yes! That's very true (about only seeing the page once logged in!).
*engages brain*
- a list of "my email addresses";
This is what I don't fully understand. I now added a drop-down menu with "my email addresses" but I'm not sure this is what you asked for since I don't fully understand the intent behind this suggestion. Is it to be able to change email addresses or just to view them (I'm also not sure what'll be possible in Mailman)?
(quite a long response, sorry.)
AIUI (I'm not properly running MM3 anywhere, at the moment), MM3 understands "these are all of my email addresses", and associates those to the person, e.g., I may be subscribed to various lists on lists.example.org with these addresses:
adam@amyl.org.uk
adam-mailman@amyl.org.uk
adam-*@amyl.org.uk
adam+*@amyl.org.uk
adam@toomanyhats.com
backintwoweeks@toomanyhats.org
example@gmail.com
foo+spam@no-mx.thisparish.org
iveforgottenwhoiam@hotmail.com
listmaster@local.no2id.net
postmaster@amyl.org.uk
spamharvest@amyl.org.ukIMO, it would be nice to:
* Set one of those as my 'default' address for
* ... when I subscribe to a new list, from an address Mailman
knows about (hum, the fun part of this could be when
subscribing to a new list, with an 'unknown' address,
and later migrating that to 'my account'),
* ... sending 'system' stuff to (e.g., password reset
mails).
* Be able to set mail delivery for a chosen list to another
of my email addresses (either in replacement of, or together)
* Send administriva elsewhere, if I'm an admin/mod (e.g., to
(post|list)master@)( * Super-bonus-points, to be able to set Mailman detected HTML mails to another of my (webmail) addresses )
* "Forget about this email address" (and change my subscriptions
to.../unsubscribe me completely)
* Set all lists (for a given address) over to "no mail"
(awesomeness would be "until YYYY-MM-DD" -- for dealing with
holidays, I don't no-mail, because I will forget about one
list)For the latter the drop down menu to just view the list might work and one could also possibly set one address to default but to change them we'd need something different. Should it rather be located on the membership settings page or on the user settings page?
I'm not too sure where it should be. Perhaps as a multiple-selecting options box, with subscribed addresses (by default/AJAXywhatever) selected?
Mailing List 1 [ adam@amyl.org.uk ]
[ X adam-mailman@amyl.org.uk X ]
[ adam@toomanyhats.com ]
[ X example@gmail.com X ]
[ .... ]
Mailing List 2 [ foo@example.org ] [ admin list 2 ]where 'X' foo 'x' denotes a selection, and the wildcard addresses aren't listed...
Actually, as I think of it, maybe selecting an address that's not subscribed should trigger a "do you want to subscribe to List X as baz@example.org" -- overkill/function creep? Is it something users would want?
* the ability to set language for the lists, rather thansettings, or perhaps change 'Language' to 'Default/PreferedLanguage'I changed the label to "Default/Preferred Language", hope that's ok?
Sure! Thanks!
It'd be nice if clicking on a list where one's an admin/moderator,
there was a special link or something to take one to those options for the list.I added a link on the first membership page that'll be visible if you're an admin and will take you to the admin settings. Is this what you asked for?
Lovely!
Other people having suggestions/ideas/thoughts on the design are more than welcome to post them. We might start with this view in a few days so the more feedback we can get on the design before starting the better.
Thanks, btw for the efforts. There's been a lot of thought here, from all. And design by committee rarely works, and I'm hard skinned, so feel free to ignore my views!
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