
Hi all,
we have set up a test server for the development of the Mailman 3.0 UI. As coding on the UI progresses we will update it regularly so everybody can see what's being done.
For now it contains a simple, experimental Django app I've written to test list creation and subscription through Mailman's new REST API. You can add mailing lists and subscribe to them. Mails sent to those lists will not be delivered to subscribers but be kept in a separate IMAP folder so nobody gets spammed (thanks Patrick!). This app will be replaced as soon as there's a working code base for the "real" UI.
The server's address is http://mailman.state-of-mind.de
Cheers Florian
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- Barry Warsaw <barry@list.org>:
host: mailman.state-of-mind.de user: mailman@mailman.state-of-mind.de pass: hemispheres
And, please (!), don't use it to trade files...
p@rick
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--On 14 June 2010 19:21:04 +0200 Florian Fuchs <f@state-of-mind.de> wrote:
That's so much nicer than Mailman2!
A couple of small issues with list creation:
The checkboxes should be closer to the text in the languages list. It's hard to see which box applies to which text.
Mailman 3 supports multiple domains, right? So the list creation page should, perhaps, let me pick a domain from a drop down list.
Given that the list of lists is created from the list creation page, perhaps there should be an opportunity to fill in the "List information" field on the list creation page.
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 04:31:30PM +0100, Ian Eiloart wrote:
The server's address is http://mailman.state-of-mind.de
That's so much nicer than Mailman2!
Agreed! An earlier reply containing an ascii mockup got rejected, so here is an image of what I was trying to convey:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2226600/two-column-mm3-mockup.png
Basically I want to make sure that the "subscribe" box always shows up above the fold on the listinfo page. I get a fair number of tickets because things are not above the fold.
Please let me know what you think of this idea.
Cheers,
Cristóbal Palmer ibiblio.org metalab.unc.edu

Cristóbal Palmer wrote:
I like the idea in principle, but I don't think it'll work because there's a *lot* of stuff we want visible at first glance:
- subscribe
- unsubscribe
- archives
- list description
- user options etc.
We might want to consider having a set of links across the top to smaller pages (or anchors within one page) rather than trying to jam all these needs across the top of one page.

- Ian Eiloart <iane@sussex.ac.uk>:
That was hard... ;)
Agreed.
There will be a way to choose among the domains a user (role) has access to, when MM3 and the REST server will provide such functionality.
What you see at the moment is about all the REST server can provide at the moment.
Yep.
Do you have a wiki account? If not, you should get one and write down the constraints here:
<http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Suggestions+for+new+Mailman+3.0+UI>
p@rick
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- Barry Warsaw <barry@list.org>:
host: mailman.state-of-mind.de user: mailman@mailman.state-of-mind.de pass: hemispheres
And, please (!), don't use it to trade files...
p@rick
-- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation
Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666
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--On 14 June 2010 19:21:04 +0200 Florian Fuchs <f@state-of-mind.de> wrote:
That's so much nicer than Mailman2!
A couple of small issues with list creation:
The checkboxes should be closer to the text in the languages list. It's hard to see which box applies to which text.
Mailman 3 supports multiple domains, right? So the list creation page should, perhaps, let me pick a domain from a drop down list.
Given that the list of lists is created from the list creation page, perhaps there should be an opportunity to fill in the "List information" field on the list creation page.
-- Ian Eiloart IT Services, University of Sussex 01273-873148 x3148 For new support requests, see http://www.sussex.ac.uk/its/help/

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 04:31:30PM +0100, Ian Eiloart wrote:
The server's address is http://mailman.state-of-mind.de
That's so much nicer than Mailman2!
Agreed! An earlier reply containing an ascii mockup got rejected, so here is an image of what I was trying to convey:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2226600/two-column-mm3-mockup.png
Basically I want to make sure that the "subscribe" box always shows up above the fold on the listinfo page. I get a fair number of tickets because things are not above the fold.
Please let me know what you think of this idea.
Cheers,
Cristóbal Palmer ibiblio.org metalab.unc.edu

Cristóbal Palmer wrote:
I like the idea in principle, but I don't think it'll work because there's a *lot* of stuff we want visible at first glance:
- subscribe
- unsubscribe
- archives
- list description
- user options etc.
We might want to consider having a set of links across the top to smaller pages (or anchors within one page) rather than trying to jam all these needs across the top of one page.

- Ian Eiloart <iane@sussex.ac.uk>:
That was hard... ;)
Agreed.
There will be a way to choose among the domains a user (role) has access to, when MM3 and the REST server will provide such functionality.
What you see at the moment is about all the REST server can provide at the moment.
Yep.
Do you have a wiki account? If not, you should get one and write down the constraints here:
<http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Suggestions+for+new+Mailman+3.0+UI>
p@rick
-- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation
Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666
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participants (6)
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Barry Warsaw
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Cristóbal Palmer
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Florian Fuchs
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Ian Eiloart
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Patrick Ben Koetter
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Terri Oda