Re: [Mailman-developers] forwarded message from Andrew Kuchling
Ken Manheimer <klm@python.org> writes:
It looks like there may be a problem, or at least some sendmail (8.8.8) sensitivities, in the way that mailman is mime-encoding the digests.
I have also received reports of 8.8.8 dumping core (probably) due to MIME digests.
Well, I will report this bug to the sendmail developer today. Can anyone give me more specifics, such as affected operating systems?
Some other mailers complain about the number of attachments. Over 20 seems to be too much for them.
That's sad. It is unfortunate that few mailers deal with MIME digests decently. When I added the feature to mailman, I was wondering why no other package supported MIME digests. I very quickly learned that it is probably because so few mailers support them well if at all. I got so many complaints about the MIME digests that were the mailer's fault, that it became really clear to me that MIME digests need to be off by default until other mail software improves. I think Ken changed the default in the release, but if I haven't said so before, I strongly believe it should be changed back.
John
John Viega writes:
[Was it janne? who wrote:]
Some other mailers complain about the number of attachments. Over 20 seems to be too much for them.
That's sad. It is unfortunate that few mailers deal with MIME digests decently. When I added the feature to mailman, I was wondering why no other package supported MIME digests. I very quickly learned that it
I'm surprised - both of the outside, only-slightly-techie maillists to which i subscribe in digest mode are delivered in mime format. (The thinkpad list is the one from which i'm stealing my new mime layout proposal design.)
is probably because so few mailers support them well if at all. I got so many complaints about the MIME digests that were the mailer's fault, that it became really clear to me that MIME digests need to be off by default until other mail software improves. I think Ken changed the default in the release, but if I haven't said so before, I strongly believe it should be changed back.
John, you mentioned this to me early on - i'm sort of on the fence about it, and would like to discuss it more - only in the hopes that the prevailing world may have changed enough to warrant giving mime-default a try. I haven't gotten any complaints so far, except the sendmail problem - which i think is a sendmail problem, not mime/mailman... I'm ready to give up on this, though, just giving a last gasp try, just for the sake of personal preference. (I *much* prefer mime digest format, and also much prefer digest to procmail and mail-reader-sorted collections, both of which i have available.)
Ken
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