Re: [Mailman-Developers] Two more DMARC mitigations

Jim Popovitch writes:
Actually, that word wasn't present in Murray's original -00 draft, and was added in two places (along with a definition in terms of "business transactions") in the -01 draft at the same time Ms Zwicky was added as editor, in July '13. :-P According to Chrome's search function, all three uses are still present in the current (April '14) draft (in section 1.2 "Anti-Phishing" and section 2.1 "High-Level Goals" (which contains exactly the text quoted above).
Based on what I've seen on dmarc@, the word "transactional" has controversial connotations besides ruling out Yahoo!'s use case. The problem is that Yahoo!'s problem ("acquaintance-recommended spam") is a genuine problem, and could be addressed by DMARC "p=reject" if only Yahoo! users would stop posting to mailing lists. :-) It's not just business uses.
Although Elizabeth and I aren't on good terms at the moment because of difference of opinion about Yahoo!'s behavior, I haven't seen anything from her that would indicate that she thinks "p=reject" is a *good* idea ... except that at the moment it's their *only* idea. :-(
Steve
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