I had this thought tonight. Almost hate to suggest new features, barry, but...

Since not everyone is going to personalize every message, but may well turn on verping/personalization for ever "N" messages (that feature is in there, right? I remember seeing it, I think, and I know we talked about it.... Sigh, I really ought to look atht ehsource, but it's in my other computer right now...) -- I was thinking it might be nice to be able to create headers and footers that take advantage of personalization but don't leave stuff around when it's not turned on.

my current footer is:

Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. %(real_name)s mailing list (%(real_name)s@%(host_name)s) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s

This email sent to %(user_address)s

if I turn off personalization, a number of those things don't work. That really seems to limit the ability ot personalize part-time, which I expect a lot of users are going to want to do as a tradeoff on overhaead issues. So how about:

%(if_personalized)

Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. %(real_name)s mailing list (%(real_name)s@%(host_name)s) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s

This email sent to %(user_address)s %(endif) %(if_not_personalized) generic footer %(endif)

As I remember, some of your HTML also has something similar -- the listinfo pages do some kind of "if digests are turned on, show this", don't they? this is, I think, an extension of that...

anyway, just putting it forward to chew on....

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