hi,

In the mailinglist I use the subscribers only can read the postings of the admins and moderators. The only functionality the subscribers should have is subscribing and unsubscribing from the list by mail. e.g. mailing-subscribe@domain.xx and mailing-unsubscribe@domain.xx

That's all ok, but for that use only my subscribers obtain to much information and get confused when they subscribe now. because the got a mail like this:

<start of mail>

Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list Mailman-Developers

We have received a request from 213.224.83.167 for subscription of your email address, "jochen@d-mission.be", to the mailman-developers@python.org mailing list. To confirm that you want to be added to this mailing list, simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact. Or visit this web page:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/confirm/mailman-developers/blablabla

Or include the following line -- and only the following line -- in a message to mailman-developers-request@python.org:

confirm blablabla

Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from most mail readers, since that usually leaves the Subject: line in the right form (additional "Re:" text in the Subject: is okay).

If you do not wish to be subscribed from this list, please simply disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously subscribed to the list, or have any other questions, send them to mailman-developers-owner@python.org.

<end of mail>

Instead I should prefer that they only get a mail where they can read that they should confirm by replying with an empty mail, not by logging in etc.

idem dito for the welcome mail with all the urls. They're useless and only confusing for my subscribers.

Is there a way to change this?

I allready tried with the welcome_msg function but that doesn't replace the original text.

tnx, j