There are a few places where mailman-2.0.11 makes explicit reference to 'mailman-owner' + mlist.host_name where I believe it should use the MAILMAN_OWNER variable (else why bother pretending that the latter is usefully administrator-configurable?).

[ I've ignored the one in scripts/answer_majordomo_mail as I don't believe that script can run anyway (does the Utils.SendTextToUser function exist?) ]

*** bin/newlist.orig Sat Mar 3 05:58:19 2001 --- bin/newlist Thu May 30 11:23:42 2002

*** 204,214 **** 'admin_url' : mlist.GetScriptURL('admin', absolute=1), 'listinfo_url': mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo', absolute=1), 'requestaddr' : "%s-request@%s" % (listname, mlist.host_name), ! 'hostname' : mlist.host_name, }) msg = Message.UserNotification( owner_mail, ! 'mailman-owner@' + mlist.host_name, 'Your new mailing list: ' + listname, text) HandlerAPI.DeliverToUser(mlist, msg) --- 204,214 ---- 'admin_url' : mlist.GetScriptURL('admin', absolute=1), 'listinfo_url': mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo', absolute=1), 'requestaddr' : "%s-request@%s" % (listname, mlist.host_name), ! 'mailman-owner' : mm_cfg.MAILMAN_OWNER, }) msg = Message.UserNotification( owner_mail, ! mm_cfg.MAILMAN_OWNER, 'Your new mailing list: ' + listname, text) HandlerAPI.DeliverToUser(mlist, msg) *** templates/newlist.txt.orig Fri Jun 19 20:37:07 1998 --- templates/newlist.txt Thu May 30 11:23:50 2002

*** 32,35 **** your admin password. You can also use your password to change member's options, including digestification, delivery disabling, etc.

! Please address all questions to mailman-owner@%(hostname)s. --- 32,35 ---- your admin password. You can also use your password to change member's options, including digestification, delivery disabling, etc.

! Please address all questions to %(mailman-owner)s.

On a separate note, I _think_ that the email address "mailman@site" is only ever used in one place, namely Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py , where it's purpose doesn't seem noticeably distinct from the MAILMAN_OWNER account.

Is there any good reason not to do the following patch, and simplify the installation of mailman such that the only non-list-related alias that it requires is the one specified by MAILMAN_OWNER in the mm_cfg.py file?

*** Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py.orig Tue Aug 1 23:03:23 2000 --- Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py Thu May 30 11:27:52 2002

*** 406,413 **** return lists = Utils.list_names() lists.sort() ! self.AddToResponse("\nPublic mailing lists run by mailman@%s" ! % self.host_name, trunc=0) for listname in lists: if listname == self._internal_name: listob = self --- 406,413 ---- return lists = Utils.list_names() lists.sort() ! self.AddToResponse("\nPublic mailing lists run by %s" ! % mm_cfg.MAILMAN_OWNER, trunc=0) for listname in lists: if listname == self._internal_name: listob = self

-patrick.