Feedback needed: nodupes patch and reply-to munging per user
[I'm Ccing mailman-developers in case a few people there aren't on mailman-users, but please reply on mailman-users]
Ben Gertzfield wrote a patch which Barry recently included in mailman-cvs which allows you to not receive the list copy of a message in you were Cced in the headers (nodupes patch). The idea is to reproduce the (imo sole useful) feature of reply-to munging where people don't get two copies of replies to posts.
After porting his patch to mailman-cvs, I've written another patch that extends this functionality by making reply-to munging a per user option.
The idea is that I tried to provide an alternative to listwide reply-to munging because I truly belive that is bad for many reasons that I won't list here again, but if you're curious, have a look at: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6693&group_id=1 (please note, this is _not_ meant to start a thread on whether munging is good or bad)
The idea was to settle this issue for good by offering, in place of listwide reply-to munging (which would still be an option in mailman, just not one that most people would need anymore):
- optional non sending of list posts if you are Cced so that you don't get two copies (nodupes patch, already in CVS)
- per user reply-to munging, if you have list users who just will not accept to use reply to all to reply to list posts
Since there have always been endless arguments on whether the listwide setting should be on or off, I'm hoping that moving this to a per user option will make most if not all of these arguments go away.
The idea is that reply-to munging would stay off, users have the option (enabled by default) to not receive two copies of replies, and people who really want to use reply to sender to reply to list posts get a separate copy of list posts with a Reply-To header in there.
I've written the per user munging part, and announced it to mailman-developers last night: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/011068.html
Barry is wondering if this is going to be useful to other people or not and would like feedback. So, could you let us know here (mailman-users) if you would have use for my patch or if you have questions/comments about it. If you think the patch is stupid and shouldn't be in mailman, you can tell us that too :-) (note that the feature has to be enabled by the site and list owners, since it does cause additional processing on your list server)
Thanks, Marc
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Marc MERLIN wrote:
The idea was to settle this issue for good by offering, in place of listwide reply-to munging (which would still be an option in mailman, just not one that most people would need anymore):
- optional non sending of list posts if you are Cced so that you don't get two copies (nodupes patch, already in CVS)
I think that this is a great feature, and it is something which I would use on mailman.
Can you provide information on the extra processing that it requires? It doesn't do anything crazy like send a message per recipient to the MTA, does it?
alex
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:41:27PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
Ben Gertzfield wrote a patch which Barry recently included in mailman-cvs which allows you to not receive the list copy of a message in you were Cced in the headers (nodupes patch). The idea is to reproduce the (imo sole useful) feature of reply-to munging where people don't get two copies of replies to posts.
You know, perhaps it's me, but won't that mean that the headers on the messages that *cc'd* you will be *different* than the ones that didn't?
That might be problematic in itself for some folks, mightn't it?
After porting his patch to mailman-cvs, I've written another patch that extends this functionality by making reply-to munging a per user option.
So, here, do you mean "the adding of a reply-to mung to the list", or do you mean "stripping any possible reply-to added by the writer"?
I've read it twice now, and I still can't decide which I think you mean -- except that the list context was the latter. I'm on Rosenthal's side concerning the former...
Cheers, -- jra
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alex wetmore
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Jay R. Ashworth
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Marc MERLIN