Last week, I posted the following to the mailman-users list. The silence was deafening as they say (I actually got one good response, but only one). So, does anyone here want to offer an opinion?

There have been a couple of threads on the (mailman-users) list in the last week or two regarding not sending the content of the original post in reject notices to the (alleged) poster and in owner notifications.

I'm considering implementing these options for Mailman 2.2, but I want some feed back to be sure I'm doing what people want and to be sure I'm not overlooking things.

Here are my areas of concern.

First, should these be site wide mm_cfg.py options or should they be per-list options with a default from mm_cfg.py? In either case, the Defaults.py setting would match current behavior.

I see a few different cases of notices which include the original message.

Bounce processing sends unrecognized bounces to the owner if bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is on. Since these notices are meaningless without the actual message, I think there is no need for an additional setting here. Also, if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is on, the owner gets a copy of the triggering bounce, but this should always be a legitimate DSN in response to a message from the list, so I don't see a need to provide an option to exclude the DSN from the notification.

The privacy options reject_these_nonmembers, generic_nonmember_action and header_filter_rules can automatically reject a post. Currently, the original post is included. I foresee a single option (should it be site wide or per list) to control putting the original in the reject notice.

The moderator can reject a held post. Currently the original post is not included. I don't see a need to change this.

If admin_immed_notify is on, notices of individual held posts are sent to the owners/moderators and these include the original post. I foresee an option separate from the reject option (and should this be site wide or per list) to put only summary information (From:, Subject: hold reason) in this notice.

Note that this last can be 'almost' accomplished currently by turning admin_immed_notify off and increasing the frequency of the cron/checkdbs job from daily to maybe hourly, although this would affect all lists.

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