Where to start Implement this?

Hi there,
Could you please give me some advice about where to start implement this?
I want to create an option that allows my users to have the mailinglist set a reply-to header to itself in their e-mails. (Please no discussion about wether this is bad or not - I've read <http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html> and <http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml> and also had a look at the archive of the mailman-users list)
Though I want it - and I want it so badly I'm going to implement it myself.
As far as a quick investigation has shown I will need to add the preference in MemberAdoptor.py and some of it's subclasses (which?) and then change Decorator.py to write the Reply-To if the user whiches for it.
Would this be the right way to do it? And is there any other place I need to change to make this work?
Thanks a lot cu Martin
dont.wanna.tell [ot]coder - hehe

On May 8, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Martin Häcker wrote:
I want to create an option that allows my users to have the mailinglist set a reply-to header to itself in their e-mails.
Could you please give me some advice about where to start implement this?
Um. No need to implement it -- it's built in!
Just look for the reply_goes_to_list option in the list admin stuff.
If you're going through the web interface, just search for that string
in the general options page and it's there in the middle of the page.
Do take a look at the other settings for Reply-to's. What you probably
want is to have the header stripped then set to the list, since
otherwise anytime someone does have a reply-to set it becomes <that
address> + <list address> which mostly leads to duplicates for people.
But of course, your list members may prefer that.
You can also have this be the default on your server, if I recall correctly, by putting it in your mailman config file.
Terri

At 13:13 Uhr -0400 08.05.2004, Terri Oda wrote:
On May 8, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Martin Häcker wrote:
I want to create an option that allows my users to have the mailinglist set a reply-to header to itself in their e-mails.
Could you please give me some advice about where to start implement this?
Just look for the reply_goes_to_list option in the list admin stuff. If you're going through the web interface, just search for that string in the general options page and it's there in the middle of the page. Do take a look at the other settings for Reply-to's. What you probably want is to have the header stripped then set to the list, since otherwise anytime someone does have a reply-to set it becomes <that address> + <list address> which mostly leads to duplicates for people. But of course, your list members may prefer that.
Well, if I'm not completely of track (which I may well be) then this setting will apply to all users at once - which is not what I need.
I need this setting to apply for some users only so I can't set it globally.
But I'd love to be proven wrong.
cu Martin
dont.wanna.tell [ot]coder - hehe

Well, if I'm not completely of track (which I may well be) then this setting will apply to all users at once - which is not what I need.
I need this setting to apply for some users only so I can't set it globally.
Ahh. Per user is harder, yes -- it wasn't clear in your original post that that's what you wanted. I don't know offhand all the things you'd need to change for this, but it *sounds* like you're on the right track.

At 11:54 Uhr -0400 09.05.2004, Terri Oda wrote:
Well, if I'm not completely of track (which I may well be) then this setting will apply to all users at once - which is not what I need.
I need this setting to apply for some users only so I can't set it globally.
Ahh. Per user is harder, yes -- it wasn't clear in your original post that that's what you wanted. I don't know offhand all the things you'd need to change for this, but it *sounds* like you're on the right track.
I'm a bit confused by the vocabulary used by Jim Tittsler. What he said sounded like not every mail (to a user) is processed on its own but instead many of them are built and send as one mail?
That would go aginst my understanding, but hey... :)
cu Martin
dont.wanna.tell [ot]coder - hehe

At 7:10 PM +0200 2004/05/09, Martin Häcker wrote:
I'm a bit confused by the vocabulary used by Jim Tittsler. What he said sounded like not every mail (to a user) is processed on its own but instead many of them are built and send as one mail?
That's correct. That's how mailing lists usually work. They
take one input message, potentially add things like headers and footers, then send that back out to the list recipients -- tens, or hundreds, or thousands of addresses.
They typically group as many recipients together as they can, so
that they send one copy of the message, addressed to multiple users.
-- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.

I'm a bit confused by the vocabulary used by Jim Tittsler. What he said sounded like not every mail (to a user) is processed on its own but instead many of them are built and send as one mail?
That's correct. That's how mailing lists usually work. They take one input message, potentially add things like headers and footers, then send that back out to the list recipients -- tens, or hundreds, or thousands of addresses.
They typically group as many recipients together as they can, so that they send one copy of the message, addressed to multiple users.
Now this sounds logical from a performance point of view.
Hm, I tried to find some design documention/overview on the list.org site, but I couldn't find anything, could somebody give me a hint about this?
Thanks again, cu Martin
dont.wanna.tell [ot]coder - hehe

At 8:28 PM +0200 2004/05/09, Martin Häcker wrote:
Hm, I tried to find some design documention/overview on the list.org site, but I couldn't find anything, could somebody give me a hint about this?
The documentation that is available is at
<http://www.list.org/docs.html>. Beyond that, I am not aware of anything.
-- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.

On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 09:23, Martin Häcker wrote:
I want to create an option that allows my users to have the mailinglist set a reply-to header to itself in their e-mails.
There is an unofficial patch floating around that does exactly this. You should check the SF patch manager for more information -- I can't remember the details right now.
-Barry
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Terri Oda