[ mailman-Bugs-229568 ] Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses
Bugs item #229568, was opened at 2001-01-20 22:53 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=229568&group_id=103
Category: Pipermail Group: 2.1 beta Status: Open Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 7 Submitted By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses
Initial Comment: Pipermail does not resolve the "author" of emails sent from aol.com. Instead, Pipermail gives the email address of the listserve.
For example: "John" user@aol.com is resolved by pipermail as: listname@foo.com and not as John.
This bug only occurs for users of aol.com addresses.
Comment By: Terri Oda (spot) Date: 2002-07-02 16:00
Message: Logged In: YES user_id=110886
Whoops. Diffed the wrong thing. That's what happens when I try to patch code but haven't slept in a few days. This actually works better:
180c180 < if e is not None:
if e is not None and self.email == "":
Comment By: Terri Oda (spot) Date: 2002-07-01 14:03
Message: Logged In: YES user_id=110886
The problem is that it defaults to using the reply-to address if it's set, and this isn't what we want when the reply-to is always being set by the list.
Take a careful look at the rest of your archives and you'll probably note that *everyone's* email address is showing up as listname@foo.com. It's a nice anti-spam feature, perhaps, but probably not what you want.
Here's a quick fix for pipermail.py:
180c180 < if e is not None:
if e is not None and self.email is None:
This just changes it so that it defaults to the From: address (when it's set) rather than the Reply-to address.
If there's some particular reason to take the Reply-To over the From, I can make something which actually checks to see if the reply-to is being set by the list, but this should solve your problem for the moment.
Terri
Comment By: Ava Jarvis (katanalynx) Date: 2002-06-10 22:14
Message: Logged In: YES user_id=561110
This bug -- for version 2.0.11 at least -- seems to occur when 'from' only contains the email address.
There's some code in pipermail.py (version 2.0.11), line 177:
<excerpt> # Figure out the e-mail address and poster's name self.author, self.email = message.getaddr('From') e = message.getheader('Reply-To') if e is not None: self.email = e self.email = strip_separators(self.email) self.author = strip_separators(self.author)
if self.author == "":
self.author = self.email</excerpt>
If reply-to is set, then it is always taken as the author's email address. However, some lists set the reply-to field to be, for instance, the list address.... and you can guess what happens next when there is no name comment/author.
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2002-06-06 12:09
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This comment doesn't directly address the case you report, but it might be related so I thought it worthwhile to submit.
I see you are using MM2.0.9. I saw a similar problem with MM2.1b1, which was fixed in MM2.1b2. The problem then was that an address with a name "comment" would be displayed in the archive as the list name, whereas an address with a name comment would be displayed (properly) with the name. Example:
"John Doe" jdoe@whereever.com displayed as "John Doe" whereas jdoe@whereever.com displayed as the list name.
In your comment, you use an example with a name comment of "John", but in the example you provided there is no name comment field, so perhaps my statements here do apply.
Comment By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Date: 2002-06-05 21:37
Message: Logged In: YES user_id=139355
Well, this remains (and has always been) a problem for my lists. I have never had a user posting with an aol.com address that this hasn't been the case with.
Currently my solution is to replace the wrong address shown (philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com) with a generic or balnk mark.
Here is the html source of a typical email from our pipermail archive, and below it the source email with headers.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html> <head> <title> [Philly_ambient] tool! </title> <link REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <link REL="made" HREF="mailto:philly_ambient%40phobos.serve.com"> <meta NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
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<style TYPE="text/css"><!-- A:link {text-decoration:none} A:visited {text-decoration:none} --></style></head>
<body BGCOLOR="#cccccc"><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1><ul> <h4>[Philly_ambient] tool!</h4>Posted by <b>. . . .. . . .</b> on <i>Mon Jun 3 23:17:02 2002</i> <p></font><table cellpadding=3><tr><td bgcolor=#FFFFFF width="475"><font face="geneva,courier"><tt> <!--beginarticle--> <pre>hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please
gina
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Here is the original email with headers:
From - Tue Jun 04 01:16:56 2002 X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"! X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com Delivered-To: aharon@phobos.serve.com Received: from phobos.serve.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC4D52D2B; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82F52D1D for philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Mistsojorn@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id p.d4.184e63f9 (17378) for philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mistsojorn@aol.com Message-ID: d4.184e63f9.2a2d8a9b@aol.com To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Subject: [Philly_ambient] tool! Sender: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com Errors-To: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com X-BeenThere: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com List-Help: mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=help List-Post: mailto:philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com List-Subscribe: http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient, mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=subscribe List-Id: a discussion list relevant to Philadelphia Ambient and Experimental Psychedelic Music Enthusiasts
List-Unsubscribe: http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient, mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/ X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"!
hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please
gina
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I don't know why pipermail would treat my aol subscribers different either. But it is.
Aharon
Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-04-28 21:11
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Bizarre. I've never seen this, and I can't see any reason why Pipermail would treat aol.com addresses any different.
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