adding new features for site admin (webUI)
Dear Developers,
My task is to enhance the web admin interface for mailman-2.1.x, requested by one of my customers. As a programmer, I learned that I need to add some lines of code into Mailman/Cgi/admin.py (or listinfo.py).
I also learned that there are upcoming versions (2.2 and 3.0) which may have a different (completely rewritten) interface. As far as I can understand the current version (2.1.x) can be a widely used one for several years, so my changes will be fruitful for the community for a few years or so.
I'd like to add the following new features. My customer is running 100+ different lists with 500+ users. So my customer asks me to give a web interface for the following:
- Remove a given user from all lists. If a user to be removed is a list admin, then a warning should come instead.
- Change the email address of a given user in all lists.
I know that these requests could be done via the command line interface, but my customer would like to maintain these task via web.
My questions to you are:
- If my code is of quality, will it be a part of the mainstream code (from 2.1.14 or so)?
- Is admin.py the right place for such an enhancement?
Thank you for your answer in advance.
Yours, Zoltan Kovacs http://particio.com/english/
On 1/2/2010 3:59 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote:
I'd like to add the following new features. My customer is running 100+ different lists with 500+ users. So my customer asks me to give a web interface for the following:
- Remove a given user from all lists. If a user to be removed is a list admin, then a warning should come instead.
Note that as far as Mailman is concerned, there is no requirement that a list owner or moderator be a member of the list.
- Change the email address of a given user in all lists.
I know that these requests could be done via the command line interface, but my customer would like to maintain these task via web.
My questions to you are:
- If my code is of quality, will it be a part of the mainstream code (from 2.1.14 or so)?
- Is admin.py the right place for such an enhancement?
As has been pointed out, All new feature development is now focused on Mailman 3, so your changes won't be incorporated in 2.1.
While you could add these changes to the existing admin web interface, it may not be really appropriate because the web admin interface is for a given list, and in general, one list admin should not be able to change things on other lists.
I think a more appropriate place to do this may be on the user options page. You could add a 'globally' check box to the unsubscribe request (there already is one for the address change), and you could accept these from the site admin without confirmations.
Otherwise you could consider a totally separate site admin GUI.
As far as contributing your changes to the community is concerned, the best way is to create a Bazaar branch at https://code.launchpad.net/mailman and make your changes there.
But, I would encourage you to get involved with MM 3. It may not be as far off as you think.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Dear All,
Thank you for the worthy answers! In the meanwhile I started to write a subsystem which is about to be introduced for production use. It is not fully functional yet, e.g. administrator email changes are missing yet, but the software is already usable. I uploaded it to http://particio.com/downloads/mmsawt-0.6.tar.gz.
- január 2. 17:23 Mark Sapiro írta, <mark@msapiro.net>:
On 1/2/2010 3:59 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote:
I'd like to add the following new features. My customer is running 100+ different lists with 500+ users. So my customer asks me to give a web interface for the following:
- Remove a given user from all lists. If a user to be removed is a list admin, then a warning should come instead.
Note that as far as Mailman is concerned, there is no requirement that a list owner or moderator be a member of the list.
Thanks for pointing out this!
- Change the email address of a given user in all lists.
I know that these requests could be done via the command line interface, but my customer would like to maintain these task via web.
My questions to you are:
- If my code is of quality, will it be a part of the mainstream code (from 2.1.14 or so)?
- Is admin.py the right place for such an enhancement?
As has been pointed out, All new feature development is now focused on Mailman 3, so your changes won't be incorporated in 2.1.
While you could add these changes to the existing admin web interface, it may not be really appropriate because the web admin interface is for a given list, and in general, one list admin should not be able to change things on other lists.
I think a more appropriate place to do this may be on the user options page. You could add a 'globally' check box to the unsubscribe request (there already is one for the address change), and you could accept these from the site admin without confirmations.
Otherwise you could consider a totally separate site admin GUI.
This is what I chose.
As far as contributing your changes to the community is concerned, the best way is to create a Bazaar branch at https://code.launchpad.net/mailman and make your changes there.
OK, I'll do that, but I should learn Bazaar first. I guess it should be quite straightforward. If you find my contribution useful, I'll happily learn Bazaar and upload my scripts. Of course, the current package I uploaded to particio.com is also available for the community.
But, I would encourage you to get involved with MM 3. It may not be as far off as you think.
:-) Yes, I read the news that you are working hard on MM 3. I hope I'll have some time to try it soon!
Yours, Zoltan
Dear All,
I uploaded my bazaar branch right now. The .tgz package is also available on http://particio.com/downloads/mmsawt-0.8.tar.gz.
Yours, Zoltan
- január 29. 11:26 Kovács Zoltán írta, <kovzol@particio.com>:
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