Re: [Mailman-Developers] A few mailman issues
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:39:38 +0200 (CEST) Dan Ohnesorg <dan@feld.cvut.cz> wrote:
I think, the pipermail should be definietly removed from mailman. It is mutch better to use some external archiver. You will have match more stable mailman without pipermail.
While I agree that Pipermail is feture poor and, umm, in general sucks, there is also a definite value to having an archiver, even such a poor one, be an implicit part of Mailman -- if only for new list admins who instantly get something that is *usable* (if not friendly) and thereby can instantly have their lists archived and indexed without having to confront the complexities of MHonArc or Hypermail.
I consider Pipermail to be one of the features of Mailman which make it is easily recommendable to new list admins:
-- they get instant if minimal archiving functionality -- by default all their list mail is preserved in a portable/standardised format (mbox) -- it is very easy to later put in a more full featured archiver ala MHonArc/Hypermail. -- If/when they do move to an external archiver, their old mail is preserved in a form easy to run thru the new archiving system to gen the new archives.
When someone will corect my poor english, I can write mailman-archiving howto for mailman-MHonArc cooperation.
Sure.
-- J C Lawrence Internet: claw@kanga.nu ----------(*) Internet: coder@kanga.nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...
J C Lawrence <claw@cp.net> wrote:
While I agree that Pipermail is feture poor and, umm, in general sucks, there is also a definite value to having an archiver, even such a poor one, be an implicit part of Mailman
I agree 100%. We run a bunch of mailing lists here. Time to invest in managing those lists is extremely limited. We used to use majordomo/hypermail. One of the best things in my mind about switching to mailman is that now instead of administering two software packages, we can adminster one. Maybe pipermail isn't the best archiver in the world, but it's sure good enough for our purposes (which are pretty simplistic, but then again, I suspect most people who want to archive mailing lists have equally simplistic needs). To remove it from the mailman distribution would be a big mistake.
Roy Smith <roy@popmail.med.nyu.edu> New York University School of Medicine 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
"RS" == Roy Smith <roy.smith@med.nyu.edu> writes:
RS> To remove it from the mailman distribution would be a big
RS> mistake.Agreed! It won't, and doesn't need to happen.
I wouldn't be opposed to a complete re-write of the bundled archiver, but it has to be Python. That might be too much work, so some smaller step improvements would definitely be accepted.
What would really help me would be for someone out there to claim "ownership" of the archiver; basically vette patches other improvements.
-Barry
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