Re: [Mailman-Developers] Ideas for injecting test messages
Perhaps. I’m working close to full time on programming with Mailman and questions do come up. I’ve had no previous experience of Mailman and for the most part I feel do all my own research and problem resolution. I dig deep into the source and generally I think I ask questions when I’ve got to the bottom of the source code and still can’t understand why something is working in the way it does.
I know I’m more active on the list at the moment than anyone else. However, this is the only case that I’m aware of that I’ve asked a question that some research on Google could have answered.
If you’d like less activity that’s OK I’ll take that on board. This however is likely to be the outcome of Mailman 3 coming to completion with interfaces that others programmers can work with- active development along with lots of questions. The whole Mailman community is likely to become more noisy if you have succeeded in your goal of building something valuable, which I think is true.
I’ll take feedback from anyone on this - I don’t mind hearing what people think. If you feel like you’d like the list to be less active from me that’s fine - if you think my questions lack research and effort that’s OK too. Just let me know.
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On 25 Feb 2015, at 10:18 pm, Abhilash Raj <raj.abhilash1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I am not sure how do I put this, but I think you should spend little more time investigating about the questions you send in to this list. Questions and answers seperated by a 3 hour window makes me feel like its not even a question, but a personel log. I agree mailman-devs can answer your queries more quickly, but if you can find answers from documentation then there is no point in sending in these queries. It would be easier if you collated your queries and send-in one email in a day or two?
Also, I really appriciate the authentication proxy that you are trying to build for mailman, please don't take this as any form of discouragement. These are my personel thoughts and in no way the opinion of the whole mailman community.
If anyone feels this was totally unnecessary, please correct me.
On 25 February 2015 at 07:57, Andrew Stuart <andrew.stuart@supercoders.com.au> wrote:
-- thanks, Abhilash Raj
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I think that, given that Andrew's been working a LOT on Mailman, and is implementing a bunch of stuff, and that this is basically the only time Andrew's accidentally asked a question he could have answered with a bit more research, Andrew is using the list properly. I've only been on mailman-developers for a couple of months, but I've been in open source for several years, and this kind of usage feels totally reasonable for an open source project mailing list -- especially one where we nearly never see each other in person and the major developers are spread from South Asia across Europe and the American timezones (making IRC less useful), and given the April release date we're pushing towards.
In my opinion it's okay to put each substantial question in a different email thread -- that makes subject lines easier to skim.
- -Sumana Harihareswara
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On Feb 25, 2015, at 09:28 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
Andrew is using the list properly.
I agree. Frankly, I'm a bit jealous that he gets to spend all his time on Mailman. :)
I don't mind answering good questions here, and I welcome the interesting discussions on this list. Just please be aware that it may be difficult for me to respond quickly, and I ask for patience (and the polite re-ping :).
There are timezone challenges of course, but also work and life constraints that get in the way. If the question is short and the answer is easy, I'll try to respond more quickly. If I have to do more research or thinking, it could take a little while because I want to be able to respond thoughtfully.
Cheers, -Barry
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I think that, given that Andrew's been working a LOT on Mailman, and is implementing a bunch of stuff, and that this is basically the only time Andrew's accidentally asked a question he could have answered with a bit more research, Andrew is using the list properly. I've only been on mailman-developers for a couple of months, but I've been in open source for several years, and this kind of usage feels totally reasonable for an open source project mailing list -- especially one where we nearly never see each other in person and the major developers are spread from South Asia across Europe and the American timezones (making IRC less useful), and given the April release date we're pushing towards.
In my opinion it's okay to put each substantial question in a different email thread -- that makes subject lines easier to skim.
- -Sumana Harihareswara
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On Feb 25, 2015, at 09:28 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
Andrew is using the list properly.
I agree. Frankly, I'm a bit jealous that he gets to spend all his time on Mailman. :)
I don't mind answering good questions here, and I welcome the interesting discussions on this list. Just please be aware that it may be difficult for me to respond quickly, and I ask for patience (and the polite re-ping :).
There are timezone challenges of course, but also work and life constraints that get in the way. If the question is short and the answer is easy, I'll try to respond more quickly. If I have to do more research or thinking, it could take a little while because I want to be able to respond thoughtfully.
Cheers, -Barry
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