All, has anyone taken up Nick's kind offer of using these details to get the modification scripts? I am happy to do this but can only post them here once I do so because the code will mean nothing to me. I am sure it is in everyone's interest for this to be working smoothly - given we now have access to any information and a contact point in Nick, I suspect we just need someone to own and drive the process from the mailman side. Who at mailman has good inner workings of the install process and the installation directories? If there is any issue I should be aware of please feel free to contact me in private. Cheers, Martin.

Martin@Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759 Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant to Rotman

=-----Original Message----- =From: J. Nick Koston [mailto:nick@cpanel.net] =Sent: November 15, 2003 10:47 PM =To: Martin@Cleaver.org =Cc: barry@python.org; mailman-developers@python.org; bob@nleaudio.com; =serafin@eryxma.com =Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman =&CPanel?

=Martin,

=Just use this ip address to submit a ticket:

=216.118.116.101

=/Nick

=On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 10:29, Martin@Cleaver.org wrote: => Hi Barry, => => It seems this is the key - you need to open a cpanel account => and cpanel needs to treat the Mailman development team as a => "licensed cPanel customer". This will enable you to file support => requests and see the code that cpanel uses to mould mailman to => fit. => => I appreciate the need to register at the cpanel site. It keeps => the signal to noise ratio higher - and approval was quite rapid => for me. => => Note that I cannot request these scripts as I am an end user not => a cpanel registeree. Even if I could, the scripts would not mean => much to me. => => I just want my archives to work!!! => => Best regards and thanks to all, => Martin. => => --- "J. Nick Koston" <nick@cpanel.net> wrote: > Subject: RE: => [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & => > CPanel? => > From: "J. Nick Koston" <nick@cpanel.net> => > To: Martin@Cleaver.org => > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:54:57 -0500 => > => > You can get a copy of any patches we have applied by supporting => > a ticket => > at http://support.cpanel.net => > => > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 22:06, Martin@Cleaver.org wrote: => > > Nick, => > > Has Cpanel documented the changes they have made to => > Mailman? If not, can => > > Cpanel supply the Mailman dev team with the scripts they use => > to mould it to => > > fit? => > > Cheers, => > > Martin. => > > -- => > > Martin@Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759 => > > Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant to => > Rotman => > > => > > => > > => > > =-----Original Message----- => > > =From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:bob@nleaudio.com] => > > =Sent: Friday, 14 November 2003 8:20 PM => > > =To: Martin@Cleaver.org; 'Barry Warsaw' => > > Ì: 'J. Nick Koston'; mailman-developers@python.org; => > serafin@eryxma.com => > > =Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] => > Mailman & CPanel? => > > => > > => > > =The problem with cpanel is that it messes with the program => > configs in order => > > =to => > > =mould things into its proprietary setup. Once that way, its => > hard to mess => > > =with => > > =things, because they are not as they would normally be set => > up in a standard => > > =install. So in this example, the Mailman install is NOT the => > same as you => > > =would => > > =find on a webhost without cpanel. => > > => > > =Its ok for people who just want to set up a server and let => > their users => > > =modify => > > ºsic stuff, but its not for those who want to install => > custom software, or => > > =tweak stuff. I tried it on a box a while ago, and promptly => > reformatted => > > ¯ter => > > =trying to figure out where they moved stuff, etc... => > > => > > =Bob => > > => > > => > > =---------- Original Message ----------- => > > =From: <Martin@Cleaver.org> => > > =To: "'Barry Warsaw'" <barry@python.org> => > > =Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:55:32 -0500 => > > =Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] => > Mailman & CPanel? => > > => > > => Hi Barry => > > => => > > => Ok, many thanks. Please see below for the full message. => > You'll note => > > => that I'd lost all the text from the message. => > > => => > > => I'll send you the password for the list in a separate => > message. Feel => > > => free to look or change the settings, and to create a new => > list for => > > => testing. All my lists have this problem so I am sure it is => > nothing => > > => that I have done wrong. => > > => => > > => I'm using Outlook XP 2002 SP-2, but my users (including => > Sean who => > > => sent that last message) may be using something different. => > > => => > > => Thanks and regards, => > > => Martin. => > > => => > > => => > > => On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 13:23, Martin@Cleaver.org wrote: => > > => => > > => > Nick / Barry => > > => => > > => > Can you please at least acknowledge whether this is a => > known problem? => > > => => > > => > Many Thanks, => > > => => > > => > Martin. => > > => => > > => > =My main complaint is that the archives don't work with => > HTML postings => > > => => > > => > =rendering the mailing list practically useless. => > > => => > > => > =Here's a typical mailing: => > <http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social> => > > => http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social-announce- => > > => ft2004_mbssrc.com/2003-No vember/date.html => > > => => > > => > => > > => => > > => > =Here's my postings to the cpanel site: => > > => => > > => > = * => > <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid928> => > > => http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid928 => > > => => > > => > => > > => => > > => > =And I am not alone: => > > => => > > => > = * => > <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid383> => > > => http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid383 => > > => => > > => I'm sorry I can't get into the cpanel forums. => > > => => > > => But I did look at that Pipermail message (you need to => > follow the => > > => link to the one page that's in that date index). If I => > follow the => > > => link to the GIF image, it shows up just fine. => > > => => > > => Please note that the rendering of messages such as => > > => multipart/alternative are depending on list settings that => > I can't => > > => see, such as which content types to pass or scrub. I also => > haven't => > > => seen the original message so I don't know how what was => > posted => > > => matches against the filter_mime_types and pass_mime_types => > settings => > > => in the Content Filter section. There are also some => > site-wide => > > => settings which describe how to archive things like HTML => > messages, => > > => although I don't think that's what's happening here (it => > looks more => > > => like some unintended content-types are getting scrubbed => > out). => > > => => > > => I can't see any bugs, but your list may not be configured => > the way => > > => you want it for the types of messages being posted to it. => > > => => > > => -Barry => > > => => > > => -- => > > => => > > => Martin@Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759 => > > => Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant => > to Rotman => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => -----Original Message----- => > > => From: Sean Xi Yu WEN [mailto:x.wen@student.mbs.edu] => > > => Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:22 AM => > > => To: Social-announce-ft2004@mbssrc.com => > > => Cc: Martin@Cleaver.org; Quan Zhang => > > => Subject: [Social-announce-ft2004] East Meets West Lunch => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => Welcome to the launch of the East Meets West Lunch Club!! => > Our launch => > > => involves a delightful eastern lunch in the city this => > coming Monday, => > > => 10 November. Our aim is to meet monthly for lunch => > alternating => > > => between eastern and western themed restaurants. => > > => => > > => Please join us to explore the city and bridge the cultural => > gap. => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => Monday's menu is set at $13 per person; => > > => => > > => including Chicken with Special Sauce, Sweet and Sour Pork => > and Beef with => > > => Vegetables, all served with vegetable fried rice. => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => Save December 5 for our next meeting; location to be => > announced. => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => Time: 1:30 p.m. => > > => => > > => Date: 10 November 2003 => > > => => > > => Place: Num Fong Chinese Restaurant => > > => => > > => 271 Swanston Street, CBD => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => - Quan (Calvin) Zhang, Xi Yu (Sean) Wen, => > > => => > > => Mindy Frink and Lisa Stevenson (founding members) => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => RSVP to x.xx <mailto:m.frink@student.mbs.edu> => > @student.mbs.edu if => > > => you plan to join. => > > => => > > => See you there! => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => => > > => Sean Xi Yu WEN => > > => => > > => MBA - Class of 2004 => > > => => > > => Melbourne Business School => > > =------- End of Original Message ------- => > > => > > => > > => > => => ==== => -- => Martin@Cleaver.org (please don't reply to @yahoo) => => ______________________________________________________________________ => Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca => =>