Re: [Mailman-Developers] Huge lists
chuqui@plaidworks.com said:
If you VERP, so you have one piece of email per subscriber per message, you stop trying to outguess the MTA, since it can look at everything and decide a delivery strategy
Yes, but you have done this by denying the MTA the chance to optomise delivery by packing multiple similar recipients together. The MTAs delivery strategy is indeed simpler.... as in we don't need no stinking optomisation - it has the freedom to choose... from the one option you have left it.
However we're getting to religious arguments here. Suffice it to say that should mailman go VERP only, I move to something else :-)
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At 4:18 PM +0100 5/24/2000, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
Yes, but you have done this by denying the MTA the chance to optomise delivery by packing multiple similar recipients together.
On the other, other hand, it gives you great ability to make life easier for the end user, because you can pre-encode your administrative links iwth their email address, making them literally one-click operations, you can encode their subscribed address into the headers to make bounce processing and user identification easier, and brings you all sorts of things.
And in today's internet, bandwidth is pretty darn cheap, and getting cheaper. Even on my custom MLM running my big muther lists, I'm estimating full verp will add maybe one hour to delivery time (where delivery time for a message is 5ish hours), and with other optimizations by freeing up the MTA, I might even make some of that back.
However we're getting to religious arguments here. Suffice it to say that should mailman go VERP only, I move to something else :-)
But VERP is where everything is moving, for good reason. Which means your options will be increasingly limited over time. But I tend to agree -- VERP is good, but it probably ought to be optional (but default on....). In all honesty, unless you're running a mailing list across a network link with marginal capacity for what you're doing, I can't see any reasons why VERP is a bad thing.
-- Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com) Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com)
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"
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