why no user disable of the monthly reminder?
Please CC me on replies as I'm not a mailman-developer subscriber...
In my inbox this morning I found several monthly reminders for various lists to which I'm subscribed. I'm responsible enough to save off a list's "Welcome" message, and I need no monthly reminder. Why does Mailman penalize me with setting up & maintaining filter rules to clobber the unnecessary reminders? Is adding a user level configuration of this option in the works? If not, here's a request for one.
"JDL" == J D Laub <mmd@laubster.org> writes:
JDL> In my inbox this morning I found several monthly reminders
JDL> for various lists to which I'm subscribed. I'm responsible
JDL> enough to save off a list's "Welcome" message, and I need no
JDL> monthly reminder. Why does Mailman penalize me with setting
JDL> up & maintaining filter rules to clobber the unnecessary
JDL> reminders? Is adding a user level configuration of this
JDL> option in the works? If not, here's a request for one.Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
-Barry
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:54:15AM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
Well, damnit Barry, what took you so long?
Cheers, -- jra
Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015
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"JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> writes:
>> Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha
>> tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a
>> per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
JRA> Well, damnit Barry, what took you so long?Well, it takes a long time to check in stuff over a pokie little DSL line. I mean, if anybody wants to donate a nice T3 or OC48 to my house, it would go a long way toward faster checkins of cool new features. :)
-Barry
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:15:27PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
JRA> Well, damnit Barry, what took you so long?Well, it takes a long time to check in stuff over a pokie little DSL line. I mean, if anybody wants to donate a nice T3 or OC48 to my house, it would go a long way toward faster checkins of cool new features. :)
OC48.
Shyeah, right.
Cheers, -- jra
Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015
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On Friday, June 1, 2001, at 09:48 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
OC48.
Shyeah, right.
hey, don't put it down until you try it. I love mine.
you wouldn't believe how quickly you can download movies from www.nudgewink.com
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome <http://www.chuqui.com> [<chuqui@plaidworks.com> = <me@chuqui.com> = <chuq@apple.com>] Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you.
Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 09:52:14AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
OC48. Shyeah, right.
hey, don't put it down until you try it. I love mine. you wouldn't believe how quickly you can download movies from www.nudgewink.com
Rugger bastard.
Cheers, -- jra
Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015
OS/X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows
On Friday, June 1, 2001, at 09:58 AM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Hey, I worked for the gubmint for 10 years. Trust me, it never hurts to ask.
tell you what, Barry -- I'll hook up a modem to my network at home, and you can dial in and share mine that way.
chuq (a typical gubmint solution to the problem...)
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome <http://www.chuqui.com> [<chuqui@plaidworks.com> = <me@chuqui.com> = <chuq@apple.com>] Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you.
USENET is a lot better after two or three eggnogs. We shouldn't allow anyone on the net without a bottle of brandy. (chuq von rospach, 1992)
"CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> writes:
CVR> tell you what, Barry -- I'll hook up a modem to my network at
CVR> home, and you can dial in and share mine that way.
CVR> chuq (a typical gubmint solution to the problem...)Actually, a TGS would involve going through all the expense of putting that in place, using it once, and then letting it rot for 30 years.
-Barry
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:15:27PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
"JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> writes:
>> Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha >> tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a >> per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
JRA> Well, damnit Barry, what took you so long?
Well, it takes a long time to check in stuff over a pokie little DSL line. I mean, if anybody wants to donate a nice T3 or OC48 to my house, it would go a long way toward faster checkins of cool new features. :)
Weeeelll... If you want to move to Amsterdam, Barry, I'm pretty sure I can find you a nice li'l sysadmin spot at a certain ISP, and an apt. within sight of office, so you can use a 2Mbit wireless connection to leach off of the 1Gbit (ethernet over dark fiber) links we have connected to our uplinks and multitude of peers ;)
Unfortunately for me, there's a big appartement building smack in the middle of *my* line of sight to the office.... so I'll have to make do with a puny 33k6 analogue leased line until they either tear down the building or get me a decent ADSL service :P
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@xs4all.net>
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"TW" == Thomas Wouters <thomas@xs4all.net> writes:
TW> Weeeelll... If you want to move to Amsterdam, Barry, I'm
TW> pretty sure I can find you a nice li'l sysadmin spot at a
TW> certain ISP, and an apt. within sight of office, so you can
TW> use a 2Mbit wireless connection to leach off of the 1Gbit
TW> (ethernet over dark fiber) links we have connected to our
TW> uplinks and multitude of peers ;)Don't tempt me! There's already been a Netherlands->US imbalance in The Force for the last 6 years. And if we can't tip the scales for good by /us/ hiring /you/, I might just have to help balance the scales in the other direction.
Not that my brain can compare to Guido's, no, but Max sure is cuter, so that evens things. I've got a cousin just an hour or so away from you in Germany, and if Guido can learn to speak like a "Warshingtonian", I'm sure I can pick up enough Dutch to get by. 'Course, it /is/ a long sea voyage away. :)
i'd-just-be-coming-for-the-hash-bars-and-hookers-anyway-ly y'rs, -Barry
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 09:41:28PM +0200, Thomas Wouters wrote:
Well, it takes a long time to check in stuff over a pokie little DSL line. I mean, if anybody wants to donate a nice T3 or OC48 to my house, it would go a long way toward faster checkins of cool new features. :) Weeeelll... If you want to move to Amsterdam, Barry, I'm pretty sure I can find you a nice li'l sysadmin spot at a certain ISP, and an apt. within sight of office, so you can use a 2Mbit wireless connection to leach off of the 1Gbit (ethernet over dark fiber)
Hey, I happen to live one subway stop from that certain ISP... is that offer open for other people too? ;-) Hmmm unfortunately my appartment isn't in the line of sight either... oh well, i'm quite happy with the ADSL line from that same ISP... :)
Regards,
Ricardo
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:07:43PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:54:15AM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
Well, damnit Barry, what took you so long?
BTW, at sourceforge, every month, we get mail from users asking who we dared sending them their mailman password in cleartext by mail.
I've gotten tired to answer them, and wrote this: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/mailman-password.txt
Feel free to steal and re-use while you're still running mm 2.0.
This also goes for the other fine stuff available here: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/
:-)
Marc
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:42:25PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
BTW, at sourceforge, every month, we get mail from users asking who we dared sending them their mailman password in cleartext by mail.
I've gotten tired to answer them, and wrote this: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/mailman-password.txt
You missed the other aspect of the monthly reminders: informing people what lists they're subscribed to. I don't care about getting my most-insecure password mailed to me, but I do very much care about the overview of lists I'm subscribed to, lest I forget some.
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@xs4all.net>
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:42:25PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
BTW, at sourceforge, every month, we get mail from users asking who we dared sending them their mailman password in cleartext by mail.
Well, alas, merely telling them "do not use a valuable password" isn't really good enough, and I'm on the "ask a reminder question" side of this fence, myself.
Cheers, -- jra
Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015
OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows
At 09:54 01/06/2001, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Yes. Just yesterday I checked in changes to the MM2.1alpha tree to support user-disabling of reminder messages, on a per-list, or per-virtual domain basis.
Is the default setting configurable by the list-admin, or is it hard-coded to a certain setting?
Adam < http://tss.dumpshock.com / http://www.jillted.org / adamj@dumpshock.com >
"AJ" == Adam J <adamj@dumpshock.com> writes:
AJ> Is the default setting configurable by the list-admin, or is
AJ> it hard-coded to a certain setting?The list owner can say that password reminders are never sent for his list, but the ability for a user to suppress passwords globally across all lists is always available.
-Barry
"J.D. Laub" wrote:
Please CC me on replies as I'm not a mailman-developer subscriber...
In my inbox this morning I found several monthly reminders for various lists to which I'm subscribed. I'm responsible enough to save off a list's "Welcome" message, and I need no monthly reminder. Why does Mailman penalize me with setting up & maintaining filter rules to clobber the unnecessary reminders?
You would go to the trouble of setting up a filter for a *monthly* message?
Man, I thought I was anal-retentive, but the Internet shows me how much of a slacker I really am.
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