Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSoC 2012] Metrics

George,
let me throw in some thoughts just to annoy you ;)
Like with most statistical data I mostly see the figures being used to give statements on quantity - top poster, number of threads etc. Do you think it would be possible to also make some statements on quality?
Let me give an example: Mailing lists are often places where people go to ask for advice. Someone asking usually starts a thread and continually keeps replying. That easily makes a person top poster and might make the same person a thread starter, but number of posts and threads started gives no indication of that persons knowledge (concerning the mailing lists topic).
OTOH someone who has been on the list for ages, who replies more often than starting threads and who ends threads often after she has replied might very well be a very knowledgeable person, because she gives the one answer that solves the problem.
Do you think it would be possible to deduct such quality oriented statements?
p@rick
P.S. Do you also plan to deliver a tool that analyzes a mailing list archive in order to gather your statistical data? Having the statistical data might be a good reason for people to upgrade their MMx installation to MM3.
- George Chatzisofroniou <sophron@latthi.com>:
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Hello Patrick,
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter <p@state-of-mind.de> wrote:
The metrics will primarily extract the activity of a mailing list and its users.
It is possible to emphasize on the quality of the posts but i think this is a different app (but it interacts with the Metrics one). If the users were able to rank the posts through the archiver it wouldn't be hard to indicate one user's offering to his community. This looks like the first idea on this page 1.
Yes, there will be a special Generate button in case of an existing archive or in case of a system crash.
-- George Chatzisofroniou sophron.latthi.com

- Patrick Ben Koetter <p@state-of-mind.de>:
As a follow-up: I just stumbled across http://www.mentby.com/patrick-ben-koetter/, which is nice because it also gives an overview over all (here: some) mailing lists an identity posts to.
The second pie chart seems to try to say something about quality. It splits posts in 'relevant' and 'passive', which are not exactly opposites, but well …
Actually I'd say they still need to work on their rating: <http://www.mentby.com/barry-warsaw/> ;)
p@rick
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Hello Patrick,
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter <p@state-of-mind.de> wrote:
The metrics will primarily extract the activity of a mailing list and its users.
It is possible to emphasize on the quality of the posts but i think this is a different app (but it interacts with the Metrics one). If the users were able to rank the posts through the archiver it wouldn't be hard to indicate one user's offering to his community. This looks like the first idea on this page 1.
Yes, there will be a special Generate button in case of an existing archive or in case of a system crash.
-- George Chatzisofroniou sophron.latthi.com

- Patrick Ben Koetter <p@state-of-mind.de>:
As a follow-up: I just stumbled across http://www.mentby.com/patrick-ben-koetter/, which is nice because it also gives an overview over all (here: some) mailing lists an identity posts to.
The second pie chart seems to try to say something about quality. It splits posts in 'relevant' and 'passive', which are not exactly opposites, but well …
Actually I'd say they still need to work on their rating: <http://www.mentby.com/barry-warsaw/> ;)
p@rick
-- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation
Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666
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