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Today's Topics:
- qrunner -- problem with huge mail messages (Dirko van Schalkwyk)
- HTML Issue (James Dinan)
- Re: HTML Issue (Thomas Wouters)
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:35:26 +0200 From: Dirko van Schalkwyk <dvschalk@ing.sun.ac.za> Reply-To: dvschalk@ing.sun.ac.za To: mailman-developers@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Developers] qrunner -- problem with huge mail messages
Hi
It is 6:02 AM Sat. and I'm fairly fed-up.
I have the following situation :
Mailman 2.0.5 Python 2.0 MTA : postfix
I set Mailman up, created a test list and played with it for a while. Then I send it a big "whopper" 5MB e-mail. I watched the logs and saw postfix running the wrapper. The cron started qrunner and all hell broke lose (over dramatizing a bit). It started running at 100% CPU, where it stayed until I killed it. The message was queued in $prefix/qfiles, it and its little .db file. I had to remove those as well as the locks in $prefix/locks before I could successfully use the list again.
So I thought, "well maybe the pipermail thingy can't handle the huge mime thingies I'm sending it". So I send a smaller attachment <150kb. Things went fine (except for the ugly html page:) ) Send it a 1MB attachment. qrunner started spinning it's wheels again. Had to seek and destroy again.
So I replaced pipermail with MHonArc (With PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER , PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER , PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in mm_cfg.py and the appropriate thingies in httpd.conf). Small messages worked fine. Big whoppers = no joy i.e. still the same with big messages. So at least it is not the archiving bit that messes up.
So I upgraded my Python ;) Ermm, to version 2.0. Still the same.
Has anyone had the same problem? Can anyone confirm this as a bug by sending a 2MB file to a 2.0.5 testlist?
How do I do a trace in Python? (i.e. it is as familiar to me as the bacteria in my stomach (I runs on my machine and there endeth the relationship))
Any pointers? Anything? I need to get this list running before monday (yes this is for a business). Please!!!??
Sorry if this e-mail was not formal enough, the 48 hours strait is getting to me.
Greets
Dirko
Lab E352 E&E Engineering Univ. of Stellenbosch South Africa
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Message: 2 From: "James Dinan" <james@gilbertwalker.com> To: <mailman-developers@python.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:49:27 -0700 Subject: [Mailman-Developers] HTML Issue
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I posted this message to mailman-users, and then the more I was thinking = about it, the more I began to think this was a question for developers. = Please tell me what you think:
I am running Mailman 2.0.1 on Redhat 6.2 and I am having difficulty with = the Subscribe Results Page (/mailman/subscribe/listname). More = specifically, I have edited the HTML and whenever I view the page, = mailman appears to be prepending the following to the source:
<HTML> <HEAD> </HEAD> <BODY <BODY bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
which I'm sure you can imagine is wreaking havoc on the rest of my HTML. = Has anyone else had this problem, or is this fixed in future releases? = Since I am not an admin on the server I am configuring it will be = difficult (Redhat installs mailman in /var/mailman) to recompile = mailman.
I have just checked = http://mail.python.org/mailman/subscribe/mailman-users and you can see = for yourself that this is also happening with the version of mailman = that serves this list.
- jim dinan.
James Dinan <james@gilbertwalker.com> Gilbert Walker Group: Lenox, MA U.S.A Available: http://www.gilbertwalker.com
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:47:58 +0200 From: Thomas Wouters <thomas@xs4all.net> To: James Dinan <james@gilbertwalker.com> Cc: mailman-developers@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] HTML Issue
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:49:27AM -0700, James Dinan wrote:
I posted this message to mailman-users, and then the more I was thinking about it, the more I began to think this was a question for developers. Please tell me what you think:
I am running Mailman 2.0.1 on Redhat 6.2 and I am having difficulty with the Subscribe Results Page (/mailman/subscribe/listname). More specifically, I have edited the HTML and whenever I view the page, mailman appears to be prepending the following to the source:
<HTML> <HEAD> </HEAD> <BODY <BODY bgcolor="#ffffff">
Yes. This is an open bug, and an old one. It still requires a Pronouncement from Barry. The problem is that Mailman creates a HTMLgen Document instead of a HeadlessDocument, for the list page. From the top of my head the fix is to change
doc = Document()into
doc = HeadlessDocument()in Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, function listinfo_overview(). I believe Barry is reluctant to fix it because of possible breakage (people might have made template files with the (Headfull)Document in mind.) Barry ? :)
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@xs4all.net>
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