have a look at http://lists.alia.org.au

It's been alot of work, mainly because I'm not a Python programmer, or really a programmer at all. Our aim was to produce a look-and-feel consistent with the rest of our site, and also try to achieve our advertised levels of HTML/CSS compliance [yeah, still using HTML] - and have the thing integrate with some internal info we keep about our lists.

The interface has been made by hacking the templates we use, then digging deeper and making changes to the htmlformatting scripts, and some of the Gui scripts, and more. Our archives are still in the dark ages, but we're messing around with MHonArc to achieve what we want there [and have a config file as long as your arm...]

Some people have made patches that allow modification in far better Python than mine, I'm sure [ in fact someone posted here recently about 'skinning mailman']. My aim is to keep chipping away until I understand Mailman well enough to take all the formatting away from Mailman and make it call page components when it needs to. Much more Python study to do!

MM 2.1.x seems lots better than 2.0, but it's still not too easy [for a gumby Python hacker] to change the way MM looks.

I'm happy to provide more detail for anyone who might be keen to find out what it took. Also, we've got 2.1.5 running on SuSE [8.2 and 9.1]- and we're happy to share config information about getting that done, too. Just a long --config away, really.

cheers Adam.

-- Adam Steer Web publishing officer Australian Library and Information Association adam.steer@alia.org.au http://alia.org.au +61 2 6215 8234

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Ian Bicking <ianb@colorstudy.com> - 15/7/04 7:07 AM >>> I've been searching around for people's experiences implementing alternate web interfaces for Mailman, but I've been surprised not to find much.