Mailman 1.0b7 bug reports
Hi Mailman Developers,
thanks for Mailman - its great to have that tool !
We did set up Mailman at http://mailhost.uni-koblenz.de/mailman/admin/ mostly to admin local user groups. I'm the list-admin of the single non-local group (EINST-Mitglieder).
Most things run just fine, however I had following problems:
1 - I did a bulk subscribe for approx. 100 members via the HTML interface. I overlooked a bogus line when pasting the addresses into the textfield and Mailman generated a strange entry. A syntax check on the mail addresses would be helpful. [The bogus address had a pending closing paranthesis: "AUser@somewhere.com)" ]
2 - The abovementioned list of email addresses did contain mixed-case entries like "Detlev.Droege@uni-koblenz.de". Mailman did lowercase them in most places, but not in all places. The subscription welcome message to those members contained URLs like http://host/mailman/options/einst-mitglieder/Detlev.Droege@uni-koblenz.de to access the specific member record (note the upper case letters). The "options" program does not recognize these entries unles all letters are changed to lower case. Either the case in the generated mail should be changed or, even better, "options" should accept valid mail addresses in any case.
3 - When the first external member submitted an article, its From: address differed from the subscribed address, so I as the list admin was asked to approve the message. I did so, however the message was never sent out to the list members. It appears in the "post" logfile, it is archived in the HTML archive, but it was never mailed to the list members. Our postmaster could not detect any failure of our mail system nor any error messages. Is it possible Mailman just forgot to send it out ?
4 - As list admin I'd like to have an interface to change the mail address of list members. I allready got several requests to do so. It's a little boring to do so by unsubscribing the old and then subscribing the new address. Moreover, this generates a useles "Good Bye" and "Welcome" message which might confuse the subscriber.
Anyway - Mailman is a great tool and I like it a lot ! Don't take this as complaint, but as my (very) small effort to make it even better.
DetlevDetlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Fon: +49 261 287-2769 (NEU !) | Email: droege@informatik Fax: +49 261 287-2745 (NEU !) | .uni-koblenz.de
"DD" == Detlev Droege <droege@uni-koblenz.de> writes:
DD> We did set up Mailman at
DD> http://mailhost.uni-koblenz.de/mailman/admin/ mostly to admin
DD> local user groups. I'm the list-admin of the single non-local
DD> group (EINST-Mitglieder).I see you're using 1.0b7, so I can't chalk your problems up to an old release ;-)
DD> 1 - I did a bulk subscribe for approx. 100 members via the
DD> HTML interface. I overlooked a bogus line when pasting
DD> the addresses into the textfield and Mailman generated
DD> a strange entry. A syntax check on the mail addresses
DD> would be helpful. [The bogus address had a pending
DD> closing paranthesis: "AUser@somewhere.com)" ]I've added more checks on the email address for the next release. You should not be able to subscribe any address that starts with a -, has any of []<>()|; in the address, or be unqualified (i.e. local; have no `@' in the string).
DD> 2 - The abovementioned list of email addresses did contain
DD> mixed-case entries like "Detlev.Droege@uni-koblenz.de".
DD> Mailman did lowercase them in most places, but not in all
DD> places.To be RFC compliant, Mailman case-preserves the username portion of the email address for sending email. Almost everywhere else, the email address should just be lower cased. You found one place that we missed. This will be fixed in the next release.
DD> 3 - When the first external member submitted an article, its
DD> From: address differed from the subscribed address, so I as
DD> the list admin was asked to approve the message. I did so,
DD> however the message was never sent out to the list members.
DD> It appears in the "post" logfile, it is archived in the
DD> HTML archive, but it was never mailed to the list members.
DD> Our postmaster could not detect any failure of our mail
DD> system nor any error messages. Is it possible Mailman
DD> just forgot to send it out ?Sure, anything's possible, but I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. I set up a list that does not require admin approval, but does restrict postings to members. Then I sent a message with a non-member From: line, and went through approval Web page. The message got posted to the list. I'll need some help, or more information, to help debug this.
DD> 4 - As list admin I'd like to have an interface to change
DD> the mail address of list members. I allready got several
DD> requests to do so. It's a little boring to do so by
DD> unsubscribing the old and then subscribing the new address.
DD> Moreover, this generates a useles "Good Bye" and "Welcome"
DD> message which might confuse the subscriber.This is definitely on the list, but it requires some architectural changes to Mailman, so we're putting anything like this off for a while. One thing we though might not be too hard would be the ability to `clone' a user to a new address. You'd still have to remove the old address, but at least you wouldn't have to go and reset all their options. Still, I don't think we'll do this for 1.0, but perhaps for 1.1.
DD> Anyway - Mailman is a great tool and I like it a lot !
DD> Don't take this as complaint, but as my (very) small effort
DD> to make it even better.And we appreciate it! Hopefully we can get more information and figure out what's going on with #3 above.
Thanks, -Barry
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Barry A. Warsaw -
Detlev Droege