Subject tagging in Mailman 3
Hi,
Sorry I can't remember if I asked this before, I have been given feedback about this a few times on the lists I have migrated to Mailman 3.
On Mailman 2 when the subject tagging was enabled, replies to the list had the Re: in front of the tagging like so:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Facing problem in setting up environment
In Mailman 3 it seems to append the tag first:
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Re: Facing problem in setting up environment
I have had some comments that this makes it difficult for screen reader users to identify whether the message is a new message or a reply. Its not just one or two people either, though a lot of the people just don't like change which is one factor.
Was this behavior change between versions intentional?
Thanks.
Andrew.
On 3/9/19 11:34 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
On Mailman 2 when the subject tagging was enabled, replies to the list had the Re: in front of the tagging like so:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Facing problem in setting up environment
Actually, in MM 2.1.6 and newer that is called OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING and is the default. See <https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/NEWS#L2382>.
In Mailman 3 it seems to append the tag first:
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Re: Facing problem in setting up environment
This is the new style and is required when the prefix contains a message number as in [List %d]. This is because it makes no sense for message # 123 which is a reply to message # 121 to say 'Re: [List 123] ...
In MM 2.1 you could chose this style without numbering messages in the prefix by setting OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No. In MM 3, there is no longer any OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING.
I have had some comments that this makes it difficult for screen reader users to identify whether the message is a new message or a reply. Its not just one or two people either, though a lot of the people just don't like change which is one factor.
This seems like an accessibility issue. There is an open issue on this at <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/153>. I just now tagged that with 'accessibility' and added your note.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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