Hi All,
I am very new to Linux, but will tell you what I can. I am trying to diagnose a problem on a.
Linux Redhat server
Mailman version 2.1.4
Spamassassin
Squirrelmail
The particular mailing list has over 20,000 members. The list is being sent to on a on a monthly basis one way.
A mass mail (80k - html) was sent out to the 20,000 members approximately 2 weeks ago. All seemed to go fine. I was alerted that the server performance had dropped dramatically so I checked the obvious and then bounced it. The following day I received approx. 3000 unsubscribe notices. This is highly irregular as in the past only a few unsubscribe notices come in per month. I checked these entries in the Membership list and they are still there, but the 'nomail' box is now checked and reason 'B' displayed.
A colleague of mine restarted the server again yesterday and I have just received another huge amount of unsubscribe notices again.
I followed the following faq yesterday in an attempt to diagnose.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp> &file=faq03.014.htp
Permissions seemed fineCron daemon was runningAliases are in /etc/aliases + did a 'newaliases'
around the time the list was sentI checked the mailman/locks and there are a number of locks from
locks and they areI checked to see if the processes are still around for the above
Should I delete the locks? If so how do I do this safely? Has anyone heard of this type of problem happening before?
I want to make sure there are no pending mailman tasks to complete and that if another restart occurs I won't get bombarded by another wad of unsubscribes.
I have a copy of the membership list and was thinking I could create 3 new mailing lists and divide the 20000 people over the 4 lists. Is this worth it? Should mailman be able to send 20,000 mails easily?
Any help with this would be fantastic.
Luke
Luke Hilton wrote:
A mass mail (80k - html) was sent out to the 20,000 members approximately 2 weeks ago. All seemed to go fine. I was alerted that the server performance had dropped dramatically so I checked the obvious and then bounced it. The following day I received approx. 3000 unsubscribe notices. This is highly irregular as in the past only a few unsubscribe notices come in per month. I checked these entries in the Membership list and they are still there, but the 'nomail' box is now checked and reason 'B' displayed.
These are not unsubscribes. They are subscription disables due to "bouncing". See your list's Bounce Processing page for settings that control this process (normally, you don't want to disable someone on the first bounce).
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Luke Hilton <l.hilton@chello.nl> wrote:Hi All,
I am very new to Linux, but will tell you what I can. I am trying to diagnose a problem on a.
Linux Redhat server
Mailman version 2.1.4
Spamassassin
Squirrelmail
The particular mailing list has over 20,000 members. The list is being sent to on a on a monthly basis one way.
A mass mail (80k - html) was sent out to the 20,000 members approximately 2 weeks ago. All seemed to go fine. I was alerted that the server performance had dropped dramatically so I checked the obvious and then bounced it. The following day I received approx. 3000 unsubscribe notices. This is highly irregular as in the past only a few unsubscribe notices come in per month. I checked these entries in the Membership list and they are still there, but the 'nomail' box is now checked and reason 'B' displayed.
A colleague of mine restarted the server again yesterday and I have just received another huge amount of unsubscribe notices again.
I followed the following faq yesterday in an attempt to diagnose.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show
&file=faq03.014.htp
- Permissions seemed fine
- Cron daemon was running
- Aliases are in /etc/aliases + did a 'newaliases'
- I checked the mailman/locks and there are a number of locks from around the time the list was sent
- I checked to see if the processes are still around for the above locks and they are
Should I delete the locks? If so how do I do this safely? Has anyone heard of this type of problem happening before?
I want to make sure there are no pending mailman tasks to complete and that if another restart occurs I won't get bombarded by another wad of unsubscribes.
I have a copy of the membership list and was thinking I could create 3 new mailing lists and divide the 20000 people over the 4 lists. Is this worth it? Should mailman be able to send 20,000 mails easily?
Any help with this would be fantastic.
Luke
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Luke Hilton wrote:Hi All,
I am very new to Linux, but will tell you what I can. I am trying to diagnose a problem on a.
Linux Redhat server
Mailman version 2.1.4
Spamassassin
Squirrelmail
The particular mailing list has over 20,000 members. The list is being sent to on a on a monthly basis one way.
A mass mail (80k - html) was sent out to the 20,000 members approximately 2 weeks ago. All seemed to go fine. I was alerted that the server performance had dropped dramatically so I checked the obvious and then bounced it. The following day I received approx. 3000 unsubscribe notices. This is highly irregular as in the past only a few unsubscribe notices come in per month. I checked these entries in the Membership list and they are still there, but the 'nomail' box is now checked and reason 'B' displayed.
A colleague of mine restarted the server again yesterday and I have just received another huge amount of unsubscribe notices again.
I followed the following faq yesterday in an attempt to diagnose.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show
&file=faq03.014.htp
- Permissions seemed fine
- Cron daemon was running
- Aliases are in /etc/aliases + did a 'newaliases'
- I checked the mailman/locks and there are a number of locks from around the time the list was sent
- I checked to see if the processes are still around for the above locks and they are
Should I delete the locks? If so how do I do this safely? Has anyone heard of this type of problem happening before?
I want to make sure there are no pending mailman tasks to complete and that if another restart occurs I won't get bombarded by another wad of unsubscribes.
I have a copy of the membership list and was thinking I could create 3 new mailing lists and divide the 20000 people over the 4 lists. Is this worth it? Should mailman be able to send 20,000 mails easily?
Any help with this would be fantastic.
Luke
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"VAEZ(daneshjooye sharif)" <vaez_ha@yahoo.com> wrote:
Luke Hilton wrote:Hi All,
I am very new to Linux, but will tell you what I can. I am trying to diagnose a problem on a.
Linux Redhat server
Mailman version 2.1.4
Spamassassin
Squirrelmail
The particular mailing list has over 20,000 members. The list is being sent to on a on a monthly basis one way.
A mass mail (80k - html) was sent out to the 20,000 members approximately 2 weeks ago. All seemed to go fine. I was alerted that the server performance had dropped dramatically so I checked the obvious and then bounced it. The following day I received approx. 3000 unsubscribe notices. This is highly irregular as in the past only a few unsubscribe notices come in per month. I checked these entries in the Membership list and they are still there, but the 'nomail' box is now checked and reason 'B' displayed.
A colleague of mine restarted the server again yesterday and I have just received another huge amount of unsubscribe notices again.
I followed the following faq yesterday in an attempt to diagnose.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show
&file=faq03.014.htp
- Permissions seemed fine
- Cron daemon was running
- Aliases are in /etc/aliases + did a 'newaliases'
- I checked the mailman/locks and there are a number of locks from around the time the list was sent
- I checked to see if the processes are still around for the above locks and they are
Should I delete the locks? If so how do I do this safely? Has anyone heard of this type of problem happening before?
I want to make sure there are no pending mailman tasks to complete and that if another restart occurs I won't get bombarded by another wad of unsubscribes.
I have a copy of the membership list and was thinking I could create 3 new mailing lists and divide the 20000 people over the 4 lists. Is this worth it? Should mailman be able to send 20,000 mails easily?
Any help with this would be fantastic.
Luke
Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/vaez_ha%40yahoo.co...
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