On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Jessy Kate wrote:

I'm trying to get mailman 3.0 installed in a fresh virtualenv with python 2.6 on ubuntu 10.04. I've sent messages in the irc channel a few times, but no response there. Is the channel still an active place to get help?

It is, but the traffic is low so I don't watch it too closely. Please 'ping barry' to get my attention about Mailman 3 issues. I'm always online during working hours EST (currently UTC-5), though I will be offline Thursday and Friday for the USA Thanksgiving holiday.

I've stumbled my way successfully through a few errors, but need some help now. I've been following the instructions at: http://packages.python.org/mailman/docs/START.html

And using the package at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailman/3.0.0a6

After running bootstrap.py, when i run bin/buildout, i get the following buildout errors::

One thing to keep in mind. Since the a6 release, a new version of buildout was released too. This bug affects Mailman:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/zc.buildout/+bug/659231

A workaround is to add this to buildout.cfg:

include-site-packages = false

and this fix is in the bzr trunk. However, even with this change, I am having trouble building a6 from the tarball, either inside or outside the virtualenv. I don't know what the problem is.

While:

Installing.

Getting section docs.

Initializing part docs.

Error: Missing option: buildout:allow-hosts

Both of these were fixed by adding them as empty variables to my buildout.cfg:

find-links =

allow-hosts =

I have not had to add these.

I then get two zc.buildout recipe errors-- specifically for z3c.recipe.sphinxdoc, and z3c.recipe.filetemplate. Installed those using pip, and kept going. But now I get:

(mailman)1219 jessy@moltencore:~/src/mailman/mailman-3.0.0a6$ bin/buildout

Develop: '/home/jessy/src/mailman/mailman-3.0.0a6/.' While: Installing. Getting section filetemplates. Initializing part filetemplates.

An internal error occured due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a

recipe being used:

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/zc/buildout/buildout.py", line 1660, in main

getattr(buildout, command)(args)

File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/zc/buildout/buildout.py", line 416, in install

[self[part]['recipe'] for part in install_parts]

File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/zc/buildout/buildout.py", line 964, in __getitem__

options._initialize()

File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/zc/buildout/buildout.py", line 1051, in _initialize

self.recipe = recipe_class(buildout, name, self)

File "/development/virtualenv/mailman/lib/python2.6/site-packages/z3c/recipe/filetemplate/__init__.py", line 63, in __init__

orig_distributions, ws = eggs.working_set()

File "/development/virtualenv/mailman/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zc.recipe.egg-1.3.2-py2.6.egg/zc/recipe/egg/egg.py", line 101, in working_set

**kw)

TypeError: install() got an unexpected keyword argument 'include_site_packages'

This looks related to the line added to a7's buildout.cfg above. However, as I mentioned that doesn't seem to fix the problem for a6.

When I build a tarball for a7 from the bzr trunk, I have no problem unpacking the tarball and building it using the instructions on the web, with or without a virtualenv. I'm doing all this on Ubuntu 10.10.

The best advice I can give right now is to grab the Bazaar trunk by doing:

bzr branch lp:mailman

and running it from there.

Cheers, -Barry