a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
Dan Mick wrote:
a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
nobody knows? nobody cares? both?
I would love to see something like that - letting Postfix do the VERPing for you.
Bob
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Dan Mick wrote:
a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
nobody knows? nobody cares? both?
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On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 00:07, Dan Mick wrote:
a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
There's this:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=731100&group_id=103
but I haven't looked at the details of it. -Barry
Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> writes:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=731100&group_id=103
but I haven't looked at the details of it.
I've been using that patch for months (I used it replace a patch of my own that did basically the same thing, but in a sightly less generic way.)
In short, if you have mm_cfg.VERP_STYLE=Postfix defined, it will pass the ESMTP argument XVERP=+= to the RCPT command, then postfix will take care of it.
I believe it also work on EXIM, though I don't have it here to try. If it does, then i would suggest changing to option name to something more generic applying the patch.
Darrell
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 14:14 -0800, Darrell Fuhriman wrote:
In short, if you have mm_cfg.VERP_STYLE=Postfix defined, it will pass the ESMTP argument XVERP=+= to the RCPT command, then postfix will take care of it.
I believe it also work on EXIM, though I don't have it here to try. If it does, then i would suggest changing to option name to something more generic applying the patch.
Exim does not do XVERP
However MTA side VERPing is easy to do in Exim - see the Mailman HOWTO on the exim site http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html
Nigel.
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Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 00:07, Dan Mick wrote:
a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
There's this:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=731100&group_id=103
but I haven't looked at the details of it. -Barry
Yup, that's essentially what I did (except slightly nicer as it's configurable in mm_cfg.py).
Any chance of getting this into A Mailman Near You?
Hi,
Dan Mick wrote:
Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 00:07, Dan Mick wrote:
a long long *long* time ago now, I made a small hack to SMTPDeliver.py to add options to the sendmail connection EHLO, to enable VERP generation in the MTA (so that the sending system didn't have to send N messages to the MTA to accomplish VERP, but rather let the MTA deal with it). For Postfix, this is as simple as adding the XVERP option.
I still don't see any facility for doing this in a generic way; has anyone addressed the problem, and if so can someone point me at the solution?..
There's this:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=731100&group_id=103
but I haven't looked at the details of it. -Barry
Yup, that's essentially what I did (except slightly nicer as it's configurable in mm_cfg.py).
Any chance of getting this into A Mailman Near You?
I think I can integrate it into 2.2 which I am going to work on after the 2.1.6 release which is now in final stage.
Cheers,
Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/
participants (6)
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Barry Warsaw
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Bob Puff
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Dan Mick
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Darrell Fuhriman
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Nigel Metheringham
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Tokio Kikuchi